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Revenge is better when nuclear

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  • Started 12 years ago by administrator
  • Latest reply from stalepie
  1. Anonymous
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    Ray, relax, as you say Mr. G-d, He will not let us totally screw it up. True, we have done one hell of a job ruining things, and true, we have the weapons to finish the job. But Ray, if you could, or would be willing to just open up to a reality that is beyond what you see, or think you can see, you would then understand that this is all a mirage, to let us think that we really control things. If we did, we would be long extinct, that you should be able to see. We are not, thankfully in control here. Ray, the answer is here before the problem exists, you just cannot see the forest for the trees. At any rate, shabbat shalom.
    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Anonymous
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    "The answer is here before the problem exists" and yet, like in this week's parasha, like the annulment of a vow that is not realized, an avera can still be done when intent is what indicts. So, there is the paradoxical free will vs. destiny. The answer is there, as Shiloh points out, and yet mankind must decide and act as Hashem's agents to the extent we can discern His will. His will seems to indicate that the entire world is to be redeemed through us and so action is the order of the day. With G-d's help, we will know what we are to do. Moshiach NOW!
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  3. Anonymous
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    HappyMinyan, Moshiach now? We are wanting this so bad, we are about to be set up for the fake one. Rumor has it, he (claiming to be the Mashiach)has met with about 75 rabbi's at the kever of the Baal Shem Tov around the time of shavuot(he even preformed miracles). He will supposedly be heard again around late september. This is not what I had refered to, just a warning to not fall for him (like we are supposed to do). Only when haShem re-reveals the one He has chosen, then we will know. Not some self proclaimed, or one pushed in by the rabbis. Thanks to the late Rav Kaduri, this person is about to fulfill his role as the fake Mashiach, causing a severe consequence. G-d forbid! Sadly the story is true, we just won't wake up, now will we.
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  4. Anonymous
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    Wow. I knew nothing of this. Thanks for the info. I just finished a couple of books about Moshiach complete with sources--one of several Chabad puts out. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but.... what do you think some of these severe consequences will be?
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  5. Anonymous
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    Simply, G-d forbid, many dead Jews. Let's not get to that point. shavua tov
    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Anonymous
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    Our moschiach is not supposed to "perform miracles." That's christian belief. Our moschiach is supposed to destroy our enemies and build the Temple.
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  7. Anonymous
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    The many dead Jews already happened, the Holocaust and the destruction of the Beis Hamikdash. The Lubavicher Rebbes have pointed out that there is no reason to believe that there must be another, G-d forbid. Originally, I was asking about the "severe consequences" of believing in a fake moshiach. I don't really fear such an event because the mass of Jews won't be hoodwinked. Those who know what to anticipate won't be fooled and the many secular "cardiac Jews" (who feel it in their hearts) won't care. This is one of the most dire questions facing Jews today and always; what does the Torah teach us about dealing with our enemies.
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  8. Anonymous
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    Many speak of the coming disaster, in all due respect to the Rebbe (of whom I do not follow in any form). One can believe in anything they want, but following his directives will be catastrophic. The masses will be hoodwinked as it is written, the nations will mock us about it. When we follow writings of who it will be, and not whom haShem will advise us of, then we will be assured of a disaster. When people proclaim someone of whom has not been identified by haShem (then we decide to accept the person via annointing with oil as opposed to we picking someone who matches the rabbinical writings and pour oil on him) we will bring self fulfilling prophecies. We have tried this many times (google false 'messiah's) and we have failed miserably, and as a dog returns to his vomit, so does a fool return to his foolishness.
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  9. Anonymous
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    Are you saying Hashem is going to drop a note out of the sky to tell us? Or that the person will exhibit behaviors we can recognize as such? Or something else?
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  10. Anonymous
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    There are varied opinions about Moshiach, but what is agreed upon is that he is of the Davidic line because he re-establishes David's kingdom. He brings all Jews back to Torah, rebuilds the Temple and gathers together dispersed Jewry to Israel. How he appears, supernaturally or naturally, suddenly or gradually, depends on our merit. Merit also influences the sequence of events leading up to and through his arrival. Hashem doesn't exactly "drop a note," but grants an exceptional tzaddik the soul of Moshiach, dispatching it, so to speak, when the time is right. Eventually, he reveals G-d's glory to the entire world and inspires peace and our service. Read "The Days of Moshiach" by Menachem M.Brod. It includes the textual sources.
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  11. Anonymous
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    Nothing to do with merit HM, it will be His mercy on us. How do you know how haShem will reaveal the person? There is a huge hint in tractat Sanhedrin. It states there will be sounds. Similar to the story of Moshe, thunder will be the sign. Thunder on a clear day, once at night, twice the next day in three different places in Israel. Then clouds will roll in quickly from all directions and breifly rain in Sefat and the clouds will quickly roll out back to a clear day This is how it will work. So He 'drops us a note'! Textual sources give us hints and clues, but when the actual event occurs, only a handful will initially know, then he will be concealed for a time, and revealed (Rambam), as you say, when the time is right. So we wait.
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  12. Anonymous
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    I forgot, but remember, it is haShem who decides what is best for us, not us deciding who it will be. So the writings are clues, but when we put tags on the characteristics the person must have, we will reject the person. As the late Rav Kaduri stated, the secular will have a much easier time accepting the Mashiach, then will the religious. For the reasons of matching him to humanly writings as you described (temple, etc). Not that thing things wont occur eventually, G-d willing.
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  13. stalepie
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    He's gonna drop a big giant shit from the sky and everybody is gonna be like "omg, i'm so hungry!"

    Posted 12 years ago #

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