Some of our supporters reportedly have brought down the stormfront.org website several times. I have never requested the attacks, though I do suggest pulling down hostile websites in Samson Blinded. Is, however, stormfront really hostile?
One thing I do not accept about stormfront is their Nazi symbolism; even the name stormfront stinks. Everything about the Nazis is too personal for me to tolerate. Whatever the secular law says, Nazism must be suppressed by any means. True, the current Nazism does not pass the clear and present danger threshold for suppressing free speech. Nazi speech should be suppressed on different grounds: vengeance. I am a Jew; I believe in an eye for an eye in its original sense, not the gibberish of just compensation, and I fully subscribe to vengeance. Nazi speech and everything else must be suppressed.
Nazism, however, is peripheral to white supremacists, and I wonder why they insist on the hollow symbolism. Why is it hollow? Because they will object to the real Nazism of Aryan supremacy. American whites belong to the ethnic mix the real Nazis despised. Psychologists can study the white supremacists’ odd choice of Nazism as ethnically mindful ideology, but the fact is, they are not really Nazis. Do we have a problem with ethnically agitated radicals? Not at all, unless they have a problem with the Jews. In the Samson Blinded, I argue for rapprochement with right nationalists in the West against Islamic cultural influx. The radicals need an enemy, and if not the Islamic culture, the enemy would be the Jews. As a Jew who wants Israel a Jewish state, I understand why the alien crowds frustrate white supremacists. Jews want to live without Arabs, and I understand that some whites want to live separately. The American situation is very different from Israeli: we only need to move Israeli Arabs 30 miles away to live in their own state, while African Americans have nowhere to go. The population figures in America are also very different from Israel’s. Besides, there is a host of moral issues, like considerable integration of Blacks in the society, intermarriages, and the fact that their ancestors were forcibly brought to America. I don’t see how American white supremacists can reasonably attain their ethnically conscious society. Probably, the concerned whites will have to move away and form their own communities. I am not an expert in the white movement, and do not know whether it is aggressive to people of different color or merely posits a problem and seeks a way to separate itself into culturally homogenous society. I would find the former unacceptable and the latter interesting.
Well, as Shoher's follower, I can say for sure, we have no quarrel with White Nationalists (of course, so long as they express their dislike of aliens non-violently). We do have a considerably similar problem of Arab aliens in what we see as a Jewish state.In fact, we do welcome anti-Semites among you. Anti-Semitism works against Jewish assimilation and suggests the Jews to move to Israel. See, we have very similar objectives with you.I'd like to stress that Shoher is the only Zionist leader who openly and honestly calls for rapprochement with radical nationalists worldwide. We do have common opponents with you, namely encroaching Islamism of the jihadist variety.There is one thing, and one thing only which really impedes the rapprochement and a degree of cooperation: Nazism. I do understand that Nazi atrocities against Jews and some others did not follow from the German nationalist ideology. Zionists did welcome one of the original Nazi plans of resettling the Jews in Palestine. It is possibly incorrect to denounce Nazism because of the Lebensraum madness and the atrocities. We don't denounce capitalism because France slaughtered untold numbers of Algerians. Yet Nazism and the atrocities are too intertwined in people's minds. When you employ Nazi symbolism, many people take it for the approval of the Nazi butchery of the Jews. Very probably, many anti-Semites among you do approve of that, but so long as the viewpoint remains private, not institutionalized by your organization, we just don't care about it. Stripped of its murderous anti-Semitic context, Nazism is not essentially different from any radical nationalism. There is just no reason for you to laud Nazism; calling your ideology nationalist would work as well. Why associate yourself particularly with Nazism which, whatever were its original intentions, stained itself with too much blood?Similarly, your revisionist attitudes are unproductive. Yes, many people know that the death toll was originally given too high. But even if the figures are really a bit lower, that does not change the moral issues involved. Nazi still butchered the Jews in huge numbers. The attempts to revise the figures in this sensitive issues are lumped together with silly denial. Again, cleaning the Nazis is totally irrelevant to your core ideology of nationalism. Abandoning Nazi symbolism will help you spread youor views.
People rarely cooperate to further common benefit; there is rarely a common benefit for two distinct groups. Rather, people often cooperate against common threat. You already have more Islamic money and influence in the U.S. than the Jewish money and influence. Islamic people coming to the U.S. are more hostile to your country than some imagine the Jews are. Islamists call America Great Satan, not Israel. Islamists would bomb American cities whether America supports Israel or not. England gave refuge to scores of Islamists and is traditionally pro-Arab, yet the Islamists bomb targets in the UK. We do have a common enemy.True, few American Jews want to move to Israel. German Jews also did not want to move to Palestine. I can tell you that many right-wing Jews would welcome moderately active anti-Semitism. You believe that the Jews should get out of the U.S. We believe they should get in Israel. Again, we have a common goal.You don't want America to support Israel. The most authoritative right-wing Rabbi Meir Kahane explicitly, vociferously and on many occasions called tgo abandon the U.S. aid. You don't want to pay for alien state, we don't want that payment. It is a point of our ideology that Israel should be self-sufficient. Military-wise, so long as we have nuclear option, we don't need American support. Again, we have a common goal of ceasing the American aid to Israel.Now, what do we have against each other? We dislike Nazi followers; you dislike Jews. Those are mere emotions. Cooperation should be built around real interests.
I do not associate myself with the nazi party, but I must say that nazi speech should not be suppressed. At all. If I have to tolerate communists and democrats, as they are granted their right to exist as political parties, then they, and every american citizen, must tolorate nazi's. It's completely unfair and hipocritical to say that one group of people should not be allowed to have a voice because their views disagree with yours. Maybe Jews and Catholics should not be allowed to have a voice, seeing as their views disagree with other groups of people. You can't try to supress people because you don't like them.
I agree with you about the difference between nazism and white supremacism. Moreover, Jews (and especially ashkenazi ones) are 100% part of white people and often far more geneticaly white or aryan than stormfront fans or nazis epigones.
There is a good example in South Africa of white flight and separatism: Orania.
By the way, during Apartheid, the Government used to work closely with Israel for atomic purposes.
And today Orania take lessons from kibutz regarding agriculture.