Comments on: What’s wrong with a mixed state? http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jouko Piho http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-66705 Jouko Piho Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:43:35 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-66705 Have you heard about an American Jewish attorney and business man David Naggar and his book "The Case for A Larger Israel"? I agree with his ideas and think that any one who is concerned about the constant crisis in the Middle East should read the book. Naggar was born in Israel but lives now in San Francisco Bay area in USA. His thoughts may be studied on his web site www.alargerisrael.com . David Naggar says that a two-state solution will not work. Israel is too small and militarily vulnerable. A new Palestinian state on the West Bank could not either be viable and would be a constant threat to Israel. That's why the only solution is a greater Israel so that West Bank and Gaza will be annexed totally into Israel and the Palestinian people would be moved to Jordan. The yielding politics of the Government of Israel will not lead to a permanent peace. Only a stronger and larger Israel could succeed in stabilizing the area. I think this idea is worth trying. I am sorry to say, but arabs and muslims do not appreciate weakness. They appreciate only power. Have you heard about an American Jewish attorney and business man David Naggar and his book “The Case for A Larger Israel”?

I agree with his ideas and think that any one who is concerned about the constant crisis in the Middle East should read the book.
Naggar was born in Israel but lives now in San Francisco Bay area in USA. His thoughts may be studied on his web site http://www.alargerisrael.com .

David Naggar says that a two-state solution will not work. Israel is too small and militarily vulnerable. A new Palestinian state on the West Bank could not either be viable and would be a constant threat to Israel.

That’s why the only solution is a greater Israel so that West Bank and Gaza will be annexed totally into Israel and the Palestinian people would be moved to Jordan.

The yielding politics of the Government of Israel will not lead to a permanent peace. Only a stronger and larger Israel could succeed in stabilizing the area.

I think this idea is worth trying.

I am sorry to say, but arabs and muslims do not appreciate weakness. They appreciate only power.

]]> By: ronmorgen http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5813 ronmorgen Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:01:15 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-5813 Two interesting verses:Gather together, gather together, O shameful nation, before the appointed time arrives and that day sweeps on like chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD comes upon you, before the day of the LORD's wrath comes upon you. Seek the LORD, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek righteousness, seek humility; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the LORD's anger. Gaza will be abandoned and Ashkelon left in ruins. At midday Ashdod will be emptied and Ekron uprooted. Zephaniah 2:1-4For three sins of Gaza, even for four, I will not turn back [my wrath]. Because she took captive whole communities and sold them to Edom, I will send fire upon the walls of Gaza that will consume her fortresses. I will destroy the king of Ashdod and the one who holds the scepter in Ashkelon. I will turn my hand against Ekron, till the last of the Philistines is deadAmos 1:6Philistine = PalestinianAccording to Amos God Himself will eliminate the Palestinians. Two interesting verses:Gather together, gather together, O shameful nation, before the appointed time arrives and that day sweeps on like chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD comes upon you, before the day of the LORD’s wrath comes upon you. Seek the LORD, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek righteousness, seek humility; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the LORD’s anger. Gaza will be abandoned and Ashkelon left in ruins. At midday Ashdod will be emptied and Ekron uprooted. Zephaniah 2:1-4For three sins of Gaza, even for four, I will not turn back [my wrath]. Because she took captive whole communities and sold them to Edom, I will send fire upon the walls of Gaza that will consume her fortresses. I will destroy the king of Ashdod and the one who holds the scepter in Ashkelon. I will turn my hand against Ekron, till the last of the Philistines is deadAmos 1:6Philistine = PalestinianAccording to Amos God Himself will eliminate the Palestinians.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1263 Danny the Admin Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:02:11 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1263 I left the comment by "me" for a reason: it came from Israeli email address. This is a comment by Israeli Arab, one of those Muslims beloved by the Israeli left. Read their opinion about the coexistence. I left the comment by “me” for a reason: it came from Israeli email address. This is a comment by Israeli Arab, one of those Muslims beloved by the Israeli left. Read their opinion about the coexistence.

]]> By: me http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1261 me Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:25:07 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1261 thres nothing call isreal its all made up the isrealis have no future.......go back to where u came frm! thres nothing call isreal its all made up the isrealis have no future…….go back to where u came frm!

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1193 Danny the Admin Thu, 28 Sep 2006 05:17:33 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1193 To Beta: Arabs and leftists are the major force in the Knesset now. Personally, I think of the State of Judea. The left and Muslims banished. To Beta: Arabs and leftists are the major force in the Knesset now. Personally, I think of the State of Judea. The left and Muslims banished.

]]> By: Beta http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1159 Beta Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:40:11 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1159 To Obadiah and Danny,What circumstances would it actually take for such a policy to be implemented? The only thing I can think of is Arabs becoming a major force in the Knesset, but by then it may be too late. To Obadiah and Danny,What circumstances would it actually take for such a policy to be implemented? The only thing I can think of is Arabs becoming a major force in the Knesset, but by then it may be too late.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1060 Danny the Admin Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:27:41 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1060 To Gal: There is no panacea. The transfer will keep Israel a small Jewish country. She would still have to deal with external enemies.The issue is not which religion is expansionist and which is not, but that the Jews were never the weak all-forgiving turn-your-other-cheek- accept-the-enemy-within Diaspora types. To Gal: There is no panacea. The transfer will keep Israel a small Jewish country. She would still have to deal with external enemies.The issue is not which religion is expansionist and which is not, but that the Jews were never the weak all-forgiving turn-your-other-cheek- accept-the-enemy-within Diaspora types.

]]> By: Gal http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1056 Gal Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:45:43 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1056 <i>Meme</i> - while I do not agree with Obadiah's views - Obadiah suggests, in your own words, that Jews won't kill you, they just want you to leave their country (even with compensations). It is highly regrettable that Jews has learned all the wrong things from Palestinians.Obadiah - I am not sure how a transfer would resolve external dangers - Syria, Iran, Palestinians on the other side of the fence. Every religion and nation is different in its own way. The ancient history you describe is not very different of, for example, Middle Age Catholicism or Islam. How about Shinto? It is probably the most expansionist and aggressive ideology ever. But yes, I, for one, am very interested to see a definition of Jewishness. For some reason I believe most Israelis and Jews would identify themselves with Jews known for achievements in rational thought rather than internally known religious authorities. Meme – while I do not agree with Obadiah’s views – Obadiah suggests, in your own words, that Jews won’t kill you, they just want you to leave their country (even with compensations). It is highly regrettable that Jews has learned all the wrong things from Palestinians.Obadiah – I am not sure how a transfer would resolve external dangers – Syria, Iran, Palestinians on the other side of the fence. Every religion and nation is different in its own way. The ancient history you describe is not very different of, for example, Middle Age Catholicism or Islam. How about Shinto? It is probably the most expansionist and aggressive ideology ever. But yes, I, for one, am very interested to see a definition of Jewishness. For some reason I believe most Israelis and Jews would identify themselves with Jews known for achievements in rational thought rather than internally known religious authorities.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1053 Danny the Admin Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:02:52 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1053 To Meme: So what? America was a country of Indians. Egypt was a country of Ottoman Turks. Palestine was a country of just everyone. Nations come and go, or pushed out. To Meme: So what? America was a country of Indians. Egypt was a country of Ottoman Turks. Palestine was a country of just everyone. Nations come and go, or pushed out.

]]> By: meme http://samsonblinded.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-a-mixed-state.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1048 meme Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:43:25 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=114#comment-1048 palestine is the country of the arab>>get out from it.the muslims won't kill you they just want you to leave from their country palestine is the country of the arab>>get out from it.the muslims won’t kill you they just want you to leave from their country

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