Comments on: The punishment of caret http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109715 chaim Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:07:12 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109715 Cannot get your point. Cannot get your point.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109697 Danny the Admin Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:36:27 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109697 Cats are not mentioned in the Tanakh. Would you say there are no cats? Cats are not mentioned in the Tanakh. Would you say there are no cats?

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109695 chaim Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:22:09 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109695 and the word equals to kill is... As far as I know, the "sight" in original hebrew means "favor", as where G-d turns his face against you and does not see you in favor. To me cutting off the sight of the people is expulsion. "do not see it anymore", since here goel ha dam does not act, nor nokem ha dam. So, I understand your point, and understand also that in certain cases, expelling person equals to death, since survival and honor were very related back then. If you disagree, please cite a single case where told us someone was slayed because transgressions as the ones in Leviticus 20:17. and the word equals to kill is…
As far as I know, the “sight” in original hebrew means “favor”, as where G-d turns his face against you and does not see you in favor. To me cutting off the sight of the people is expulsion. “do not see it anymore”, since here goel ha dam does not act, nor nokem ha dam.
So, I understand your point, and understand also that in certain cases, expelling person equals to death, since survival and honor were very related back then.
If you disagree, please cite a single case where told us someone was slayed because transgressions as the ones in Leviticus 20:17.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109625 Danny the Admin Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:53:20 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109625 Leviticus 20:17 Leviticus 20:17

]]> By: yidel http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109619 yidel Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:44:08 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109619 Please tell me where you found "before the eyes of all people" mentioned in respect to Caret. Please tell me where you found “before the eyes of all people” mentioned in respect to Caret.

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109618 chaim Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:09:59 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109618 Danny, let me ask you how you reach to the idea that caret is execution. This is the main point of the discussion. Danny, let me ask you how you reach to the idea
that caret is execution. This is the main point of the discussion.

]]> By: Squall http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109617 Squall Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:56:31 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109617 "That raised a practical question: once a sinner was assured of damnation, he had no reason to mend his ways. " No, Teshouva is always possible. If it isnt then death is the only option because otherwise, as you wrote, the sinner would be "free" to commit a crime again. Whether "caret" is an afterlife punishment or the absence of resurrection is a moot point. “That raised a practical question: once a sinner was assured of damnation, he had no reason to mend his ways. ”

No, Teshouva is always possible. If it isnt then death is the only option because otherwise, as you wrote, the sinner would be “free” to commit a crime again.

Whether “caret” is an afterlife punishment or the absence of resurrection is a moot point.

]]> By: Erick S http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109615 Erick S Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:59:59 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109615 It is indeed a well known fact that only mainstream views are the correct ones, and never before in history were proven wrong by the few, who had the courage to <b>think</b>. It is indeed a well known fact that only mainstream views are the correct ones, and never before in history were proven wrong by the few, who had the courage to think.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109614 Danny the Admin Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:20:54 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109614 You’re welcome ) But if we - very reasonably - follow Ramban's opinion, why the caret is said to take place "before the eyes of all people" You’re welcome )
But if we – very reasonably – follow Ramban’s opinion, why the caret is said to take place “before the eyes of all people”

]]> By: Ari http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-punishment-of-caret.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109607 Ari Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:47:00 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=908#comment-109607 I like a lot of the opinions on this site, but the religious views often seem to be off kilter. This site's view of the punishment of Karet is far from the mainstream. I think I'll take Nachmanidies view of Karet over Obidah and Danny's, with all due respect, of course. I like a lot of the opinions on this site, but the religious views often seem to be off kilter. This site’s view of the punishment of Karet is far from the mainstream. I think I’ll take Nachmanidies view of Karet over Obidah and Danny’s, with all due respect, of course.

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