Comments on: The anarchy of grassroots violence http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Shiloh http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110982 Shiloh Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:49:11 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110982 Danny, I recently was speaking to a friend in Samaria, he advised to wait for Gog u Magog. Being everything is fulfilled, except for that, it's logical. I understand the frustration, I agree with the post, but I believe he is correct. Where do I get this, from the Tanach. Every one must wait for their right time, and it's not now. I think it's not far off that we will reach the goal. Do not initiate anything is the point. We must be sure this time. Danny, I recently was speaking to a friend in Samaria, he advised to wait for Gog u Magog. Being everything is fulfilled, except for that, it’s logical. I understand the frustration, I agree with the post, but I believe he is correct. Where do I get this, from the Tanach. Every one must wait for their right time, and it’s not now. I think it’s not far off that we will reach the goal. Do not initiate anything is the point. We must be sure this time.

]]> By: Shiloh http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110981 Shiloh Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:40:14 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110981 Moshe, there is a reason you had problems to make Aliyah. I have only heard of this when there is a problem relating to ones Jewishness. Mine was approved in a week! I was expecting the usual 3-6 months. Your hearing is totally false of Jews getting undressed financially. Until you live there, hear say is pointless. Why would we go home, because it is our home, and for suspect reasons, not yours. Are you attending the Kollel? Moshe, there is a reason you had problems to make Aliyah. I have only heard of this when there is a problem relating to ones Jewishness. Mine was approved in a week! I was expecting the usual 3-6 months. Your hearing is totally false of Jews getting undressed financially. Until you live there, hear say is pointless. Why would we go home, because it is our home, and for suspect reasons, not yours. Are you attending the Kollel?

]]> By: Moshe http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110980 Moshe Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:00:06 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110980 You wrote: " Many Jews are only too happy to cede responsibility. They mumble, “The next year, in Jerusalem!” instead of taking an air ticket. Their prayers are an abomination, and the fact that the netherworld did not crack open below them stretches the limits of divine mercy. " I want to add that for seven years I did everyting in my power to make Aliyah. The shaliyah in my district did everything in his power to keep me here + my wife and 5 children. Israeli officials did not bother to answer my pleas. Finally I gave up. Meantime I heard and read that most people who make Aliyah get "undressed" financially in Israel. It looks like "my" shaliyah was not interested of me because there was nothing to take away from me. Tell me just one good reason why would Jews bother to go home? To become poor (or poorer), to see their homes destroyed by Israel, to bury their children after Arab terrorism murders them, and to see the Arabs laughing at them? Thanx, but no! Moshe You wrote:

” Many Jews are only too happy to cede responsibility. They mumble, “The next year, in Jerusalem!” instead of taking an air ticket. Their prayers are an abomination, and the fact that the netherworld did not crack open below them stretches the limits of divine mercy. ”

I want to add that for seven years I did everyting in my power to make Aliyah. The shaliyah in my district did everything in his power to keep me here + my wife and 5 children. Israeli officials did not bother to answer my pleas.

Finally I gave up.
Meantime I heard and read that most people who make Aliyah get “undressed” financially in Israel.
It looks like “my” shaliyah was not interested of me because there was nothing to take away from me.

Tell me just one good reason why would Jews bother to go home? To become poor (or poorer), to see their homes destroyed by Israel, to bury their children after Arab terrorism murders them, and to see the Arabs laughing at them?

Thanx, but no!

Moshe

]]> By: ED.MCMUNN http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110979 ED.MCMUNN Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:04:55 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110979 HI DANNY,GREAT ARTICAL, I THINK ONE PROBLEM FOR THE JEWS TO DO ANY THING FOR THEMSELVES THEY FEAR THE POLICE.FROM WHAT I HAVE READ AND SEEN THE POLICE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THERE FELLOW JEWS,SAME FOR THE COURT SYSTEM,WHICH SIDES WITH THE ARABS.THE GOVERMENT MOST OF THE TIME SHOWS A LOT OF WEEKNESS WHEN DEALING WITH ARABS.IF THEY TRUST IN OUR LORD THEY WILL OVER COME AND THATS ASKING A LOT.ED HI DANNY,GREAT ARTICAL, I THINK ONE PROBLEM FOR THE JEWS TO DO ANY THING FOR THEMSELVES THEY FEAR THE POLICE.FROM WHAT I HAVE READ AND SEEN THE POLICE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THERE FELLOW JEWS,SAME FOR THE COURT SYSTEM,WHICH SIDES WITH THE ARABS.THE GOVERMENT MOST OF THE TIME SHOWS A LOT OF WEEKNESS WHEN DEALING WITH ARABS.IF THEY TRUST IN OUR LORD THEY WILL OVER COME AND THATS ASKING A LOT.ED

]]> By: Comrade Tovya http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110977 Comrade Tovya Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:20:24 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110977 Actually, there is a great deal of brilliance in your point. Very well made. Actually, there is a great deal of brilliance in your point. Very well made.

]]> By: Spring http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110976 Spring Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:05:43 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110976 I like it. But we will have to start with the yafyoofim, so they don't haunt us for decades with their protests and other fifth-column activities. I like it. But we will have to start with the yafyoofim, so they don’t haunt us for decades with their protests and other fifth-column activities.

]]> By: ME http://samsonblinded.org/blog/the-anarchy-of-grassroots-violence.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110973 ME Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:31:36 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=967#comment-110973 Obadiah, Danny, Et Al: You raise excellent points. Israel is wholly within its power as a State to defend itself. No other Nation on Earth would have been so patient with such taudry neighbors. But, are there really enough citizens willing to take matters into their own hands? If there are, how come there is such a lack of unity represented in the popular vote. Grass roots and local efforts are comendable, but are there really enough persons willing to help. It seems like a lot more zionists get harassed and thrown in jail alot. Is that just media stuff? Obadiah, Danny, Et Al:

You raise excellent points. Israel is wholly within its power as a State to defend itself. No other Nation on Earth would have been so patient with such taudry neighbors.

But, are there really enough citizens willing to take matters into their own hands? If there are, how come there is such a lack of unity represented in the popular vote.

Grass roots and local efforts are comendable, but are there really enough persons willing to help. It seems like a lot more zionists get harassed and thrown in jail alot. Is that just media stuff?

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