Comments on: The Soviet Union and the Holocaust http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 12 May 2012 03:28:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: little grey rabbit http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116529 little grey rabbit Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:38:25 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116529 No you don't, but someone like Heinrich Heine who said "Judaism is a religion would say that being a hunchback is a religion" might disagree with you. In other words, I don't think you have a monopoly of how strongly or weakly Jewish people should hold their identity. Soviet ideology was class based not nationality based. And if you can't distinguish between exclusions of Jews on the basis of biology (Nazism) versus excluding Jewish separatism (Soviet) then I think you are a bit odd. No you don’t, but someone like Heinrich Heine who said “Judaism is a religion would say that being a hunchback is a religion” might disagree with you. In other words, I don’t think you have a monopoly of how strongly or weakly Jewish people should hold their identity. Soviet ideology was class based not nationality based. And if you can’t distinguish between exclusions of Jews on the basis of biology (Nazism) versus excluding Jewish separatism (Soviet) then I think you are a bit odd.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116527 Danny the Admin Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:28:35 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116527 Don't see much difference between Jewish identity and Jews Don’t see much difference between Jewish identity and Jews

]]> By: little grey rabbit http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116526 little grey rabbit Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:22:48 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116526 According to the Einsatzgruppen Reports Jews were given preferential evacuation out of Leningrad during the Siege - so I think it is not true to say the USSR did not assist Jews at all. I also read that only 1.5% of the victims of the Holodomor were Jewish compared to their population percentage of 5.4%. The USSR did sometimes not use the word Jewish to describe Germans victims - but that was in part a deliberate response to Nazi racialism - they were Soviet citizens and no contamination of bourgeois nationalism. There were perhaps anti-Jewish identity but hardly anti-Jews According to the Einsatzgruppen Reports Jews were given preferential evacuation out of Leningrad during the Siege – so I think it is not true to say the USSR did not assist Jews at all.
I also read that only 1.5% of the victims of the Holodomor were Jewish compared to their population percentage of 5.4%.
The USSR did sometimes not use the word Jewish to describe Germans victims – but that was in part a deliberate response to Nazi racialism – they were Soviet citizens and no contamination of bourgeois nationalism.
There were perhaps anti-Jewish identity but hardly anti-Jews

]]> By: AbuShy http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116421 AbuShy Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:08:09 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116421 Dear Eli, Ahalan, achi ma koreh? They obviously are turning into cannibals before our eyes, first, Sunni vs Shiite with the Coptic Christians thrown in there for flavoring. They will become Gog and Magog for all of this. The Moslem Brotherhood is mad at the rest for taking away their mojo. After all, they started all this Holy War stuff in their eyes. But the Palestinians will want some of the limelight and will probably declare statehood unilaterally. The Brotherhood will recognize them, of course, and vwah-la! You have Ezekiel 29: 1-16 in spades on steroids. 40years, 40years, 40years (holler it to the tune of "par-tee! par-tee! par-tee!). Zechariah 14 and the last verses which take place AFTER the big "world-wide food fight" is over and everyone's flesh is consumed while they stand there...notice Egypt is specifically called out and warned "you come up to the Feast of Tabernacles like all the rest of the nations, yah hear!" The first part of the 1000 year reign of Messiah will have Egypt in exile from their homeland and mad about it. Heck, they are mad now that no one will come to liberate them from Mubarak! How about we liberate you from the darkness of Islam first! Anyway, if it was me, I'd get a microphone and appeal to all the oppressed people everywhere and say, in effect, "hey China, North Korea, Burma, Vietnam and Laos, Cuba, Belarus, Eritrea, etc (not to mention the 57 moslem states Obama alluded to when he was in campaign mode) "Go and do likewise!" " Dear Eli,

Ahalan, achi ma koreh?

They obviously are turning into cannibals before our eyes, first, Sunni vs Shiite with the Coptic Christians thrown in there for flavoring.

They will become Gog and Magog for all of this. The Moslem Brotherhood is mad at the rest for taking away their mojo. After all, they started all this Holy War stuff in their eyes.

But the Palestinians will want some of the limelight and will probably declare statehood unilaterally. The Brotherhood will recognize them, of course, and vwah-la! You have Ezekiel 29: 1-16 in spades on steroids.

40years, 40years, 40years (holler it to the tune of “par-tee! par-tee! par-tee!).

Zechariah 14 and the last verses which take place AFTER the big “world-wide food fight” is over and everyone’s flesh is consumed while they stand there…notice Egypt is specifically called out and warned “you come up to the Feast of Tabernacles like all the rest of the nations, yah hear!”

The first part of the 1000 year reign of Messiah will have Egypt in exile from their homeland and mad about it.

Heck, they are mad now that no one will come to liberate them from Mubarak! How about we liberate you from the darkness of Islam first!

Anyway, if it was me, I’d get a microphone and appeal to all the oppressed people everywhere and say, in effect, “hey China, North Korea, Burma, Vietnam and Laos, Cuba, Belarus, Eritrea, etc (not to mention the 57 moslem states Obama alluded to when he was in campaign mode)

“Go and do likewise!”

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]]> By: Eli http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116405 Eli Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:35:51 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116405 Sorry, AbuShy, the above reply addressed to you. (not Ray) Sorry, AbuShy, the above reply addressed to you. (not Ray)

]]> By: Eli http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116404 Eli Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:34:17 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116404 Ray, you must be kidding. I am NOT in favor of America being destroyed, which as I said above may also destroy Canada as well. I would much rather see a healthy United States kicking ass around the world, as it used to do. But, I am not blind, and I wrote what I did as an observer, not as a Jew bitter at the whole world around him. Regarding the arabs, they are in the turmoil indeed, but the real question is who will they devour first: themselves, or us? Cheers. Ray, you must be kidding. I am NOT in favor of America being destroyed, which as I said above may also destroy Canada as well. I would much rather see a healthy United States kicking ass around the world, as it used to do. But, I am not blind, and I wrote what I did as an observer, not as a Jew bitter at the whole world around him. Regarding the arabs, they are in the turmoil indeed, but the real question is who will they devour first: themselves, or us? Cheers.

]]> By: AbuShy http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116396 AbuShy Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:37:17 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116396 Dear Eli, I guess the question arises, are we still at odds with each other? Not you and me, per say, but the sentiment expressed that seeks to see the USA destroyed and thinks that Catholic Canada is so hoity toity holy. When you mix in an understandable animus for what happened in the Holocaust, from a Jewish perspective, there can be some real fireworks that I think is not only unhelpful, but would result in a complete destruction of everything we know is an amazing life that quite frankly is not to be found on most of the rest of the planet. And yes, when I say "we know", I speak as one from Colorado and one who, while not yet having been where the last winter Olympics was held, did get to that little island named after one of England's Queens. Better victory than self destruction and God forbid we bite and devour one another like some sort of Big Foot fetishes. Question: why are the Arabs starting to bite and devour each other (re Tunisia)? Answer: they, along with other fellow-travelors philosophically from around the world who are not even Moslems, but do hate Christians and Jews have one thing in common: They have been breaking the rules found in Genesis 12:3. The "I will curse him" part is being enacted. Should we not like Abraham, who interceded for Lot's deliverance from God's wrath on Sodom where he lived, be our model for trying to at least delivering folks who find themselves in a, well, an increasingly cesspool like pond in which we all swim (called planet earth)... Any thoughts, bro'? Dear Eli,

I guess the question arises, are we still at odds with each other? Not you and me, per say, but the sentiment expressed that seeks to see the USA destroyed and thinks that Catholic Canada is so hoity toity holy.

When you mix in an understandable animus for what happened in the Holocaust, from a Jewish perspective, there can be some real fireworks that I think is not only unhelpful, but would result in a complete destruction of everything we know is an amazing life that quite frankly is not to be found on most of the rest of the planet.

And yes, when I say “we know”, I speak as one from Colorado and one who, while not yet having been where the last winter Olympics was held, did get to that little island named after one of England’s Queens.

Better victory than self destruction and God forbid we bite and devour one another like some sort of Big Foot fetishes.

Question: why are the Arabs starting to bite and devour each other (re Tunisia)?

Answer: they, along with other fellow-travelors philosophically from around the world who are not even Moslems, but do hate Christians and Jews have one thing in common:

They have been breaking the rules found in Genesis 12:3. The “I will curse him” part is being enacted.

Should we not like Abraham, who interceded for Lot’s deliverance from God’s wrath on Sodom where he lived, be our model for trying to at least delivering folks who find themselves in a, well, an increasingly cesspool like pond in which we all swim (called planet earth)…

Any thoughts, bro’?

]]> By: Eli http://samsonblinded.org/blog/soviet-union-and-holocaust.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116386 Eli Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:59:12 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1729#comment-116386 A great post from Obadia. It was only natural that the two G-d-less pagan ideologies united in their hatred to attempt to conquer the world. Russians and Europeans completely and directly supported the Holocaust, along with the US and Canada. The consequences are seen already, as the Great Mother Russia is gone - completely depopulated and constantly drunk - it will belong to China soon, and hollow Europe, lacking any natural resources and sex drive, would be prey to the muslims - the Caliphate of Eurabia is in the making. Now is the turn for the betraying US to follow suit (crisis), and they will bring Canada down with them eventually. Oh, Britain, ... well, I don't think we need to spend any words on that one, just take a look at the size of the self proclaimed "Empire". They got the first blow after the nazis, and we all know why. The punishment is swift this time around - only 65 years have passed and look at that mess ... A great post from Obadia.
It was only natural that the two G-d-less pagan ideologies united in their hatred to attempt to conquer the world. Russians and Europeans completely and directly supported the Holocaust, along with the US and Canada. The consequences are seen already, as the Great Mother Russia is gone – completely depopulated and constantly drunk – it will belong to China soon, and hollow Europe, lacking any natural resources and sex drive, would be prey to the muslims – the Caliphate of Eurabia is in the making. Now is the turn for the betraying US to follow suit (crisis), and they will bring Canada down with them eventually. Oh, Britain, … well, I don’t think we need to spend any words on that one, just take a look at the size of the self proclaimed “Empire”. They got the first blow after the nazis, and we all know why. The punishment is swift this time around – only 65 years have passed and look at that mess …

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