Comments on: Salvation will only come from Hebron http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Shifra http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109111 Shifra Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:33:04 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-109111 I just don't understand how a secularist / atheist Israeli can justify an attachment to the land of Israel. The Jewish attachment is based on the inherent holiness of the land as described in the Torah, and as given to us by Hashem. But then given the number of secularists who leave Israel, I guess they really don't get it either! I just don’t understand how a secularist / atheist Israeli can justify an attachment to the land of Israel. The Jewish attachment is based on the inherent holiness of the land as described in the Torah, and as given to us by Hashem.

But then given the number of secularists who leave Israel, I guess they really don’t get it either!

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96993 Danny the Admin Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:32:00 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96993 It's not self-evident. Religious Jews settled the land well before Zionists arrived. Orthodox Gush Emunim settled Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. Rav Kook inspired large numbers of religious Zionists. And the state created by atheists - just look at it, it is a socialist abomination not worthy of the name Jewish. If anything, atheists abandoned the state of Israel: by accepting the British partition (Jordan), the UN partition (Palestine), and American pressure (Palestinian Authority). So atheists are losing the state which religious Jews received from God. But the main point about atheists is that in the Diaspora they invariably assimilate in 2-3 generations. It’s not self-evident. Religious Jews settled the land well before Zionists arrived. Orthodox Gush Emunim settled Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. Rav Kook inspired large numbers of religious Zionists.
And the state created by atheists – just look at it, it is a socialist abomination not worthy of the name Jewish. If anything, atheists abandoned the state of Israel: by accepting the British partition (Jordan), the UN partition (Palestine), and American pressure (Palestinian Authority). So atheists are losing the state which religious Jews received from God.
But the main point about atheists is that in the Diaspora they invariably assimilate in 2-3 generations.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96991 Danny the Admin Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:27:13 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96991 And Avraham Stern was religious. Look at Zhabotinsky's son to see the results of Jewish atheism. Don't forget that Zhabotinsky failed - precisely because his nationalist ideology was empty, he had no rational answer as to why Jews need this particular land and couldn't convince many people. And Avraham Stern was religious. Look at Zhabotinsky’s son to see the results of Jewish atheism. Don’t forget that Zhabotinsky failed – precisely because his nationalist ideology was empty, he had no rational answer as to why Jews need this particular land and couldn’t convince many people.

]]> By: Nobody http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96937 Nobody Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:37:55 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96937 You get killed for the 'needs' of settlers, or you get killed because jihadi Arabs hate Jews no matter what kind and would be at war with or without any 'settlers'? You are blinded by your hatred if you think 'it's the settlers' fault.' Settlement enterprise was a leftist endeavor originally. Those in Tel Aviv are settlers according to Arab nationalism, and according to atheistic view of 19th century - 20th century history all Israelis are colonialist settlers. You get killed for the ‘needs’ of settlers, or you get killed because jihadi Arabs hate Jews no matter what kind and would be at war with or without any ’settlers’? You are blinded by your hatred if you think ‘it’s the settlers’ fault.’ Settlement enterprise was a leftist endeavor originally. Those in Tel Aviv are settlers according to Arab nationalism, and according to atheistic view of 19th century – 20th century history all Israelis are colonialist settlers.

]]> By: Analytics http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96886 Analytics Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:10:36 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96886 Remember Jabotinsky was a secular. Remember Jabotinsky was a secular.

]]> By: Analytics http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96885 Analytics Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:08:27 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96885 Yep, you said it. You carried the Idea, we carried it out. About you created us. Half half, the Galut also created us. Yep, you said it. You carried the Idea, we carried it out.

About you created us. Half half, the Galut also created us.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96879 Danny the Admin Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:33:40 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96879 Relax. Jews got Israel only because the religious Jews carried this idea over the millennia. Religious Jews are Israel's best soldiers. What we religious Jews did for you? We saved you, we created you. Without us religious Jews, there would be no Jews. Relax. Jews got Israel only because the religious Jews carried this idea over the millennia. Religious Jews are Israel’s best soldiers.
What we religious Jews did for you? We saved you, we created you. Without us religious Jews, there would be no Jews.

]]> By: Analytics http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96839 Analytics Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:13:48 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96839 I AM MAD. I AM REALY MAD!!!! The pilots of the 6 day war weren´t religious at all, but secular. Is it your children who fly the f-16i or our? I AM MAD. I AM REALY MAD!!!! The pilots of the 6 day war weren´t religious at all, but secular. Is it your children who fly the f-16i or our?

]]> By: Analytics http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96838 Analytics Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:07:34 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96838 Vienna mike, do you wanna see 18 yo israeli boys get lynched by a settler mob. We seculars saved your asses every time. It was our blood and our tears, who brought this wanna be zealots to the place where they are now. We protect you, we pay for you, we get killed for your needs. We built your roads, we imported your cars, we made the weapons you need. What did you ever did for us? WHAT???? Our taxes, our sons, our brothers. You did nothing. NOTHING. We conquered our all fatherland, and you wanna kill us. Thanks. Vienna mike, do you wanna see 18 yo israeli boys get lynched by a settler mob.

We seculars saved your asses every time. It was our blood and our tears, who brought this wanna be zealots to the place where they are now. We protect you, we pay for you, we get killed for your needs. We built your roads, we imported your cars, we made the weapons you need. What did you ever did for us? WHAT???? Our taxes, our sons, our brothers. You did nothing. NOTHING. We conquered our all fatherland, and you wanna kill us. Thanks.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-will-only-come-from-hebron.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96677 Danny the Admin Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:05:42 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/salvation-would-only-come-from-hebron.htm#comment-96677 Realistically, most settlements have a sheepish Gush Katif mentality. The places like Kfar Tapuah are a few. Realistically, most settlements have a sheepish Gush Katif mentality. The places like Kfar Tapuah are a few.

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