Comments on: Right-wing minimalism http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kashmiri Nomad http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111405 Kashmiri Nomad Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:23:23 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111405 Samson Blinded makes the assertion that the right-wing in Israel is anything but right-wing. <a href="http://www.islam-west.com/2009/03/islam-and-west-accelerated-links_22.html" rel="nofollow">Islam And The West</a> Samson Blinded makes the assertion that the right-wing in Israel is anything but right-wing.
Islam And The West

]]> By: Shiloh http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111400 Shiloh Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:19:15 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111400 The Torah is just fine. Most who read it have no problem with it. Who discounted any Jew outside the land Ray, I said, who should be in our land. If, per say, the Torah would be updated, it would be done by the Mashiakh. This is per the Tanach too Ray. I can assure you it still won't include goyim and encourage hellenistic Jews (those who have adopted foreign cultures) to return to the Torah. Starting with the 10 Sayings. Exodus 20. The Torah is just fine. Most who read it have no problem with it. Who discounted any Jew outside the land Ray, I said, who should be in our land. If, per say, the Torah would be updated, it would be done by the Mashiakh. This is per the Tanach too Ray. I can assure you it still won’t include goyim and encourage hellenistic Jews (those who have adopted foreign cultures) to return to the Torah. Starting with the 10 Sayings. Exodus 20.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111398 Ray Bright Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:47:16 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111398 Shiloh, 3300 years old laws, may need updating. Many things have changed since then, for example, there was no 747 flying between Tel Aviv and NYC every day. Neither was there telephone, or Internet which allows Jews everywhere to be in touch with their homeland. Stop discounting Jews living in other countries, without their support, there would have been no Israel. Their support is still essential. Shiloh,

3300 years old laws, may need updating. Many things have changed since then, for example, there was no 747 flying between Tel Aviv and NYC every day. Neither was there telephone, or Internet which allows Jews everywhere to be in touch with their homeland.

Stop discounting Jews living in other countries, without their support, there would have been no Israel. Their support is still essential.

]]> By: Shiloh http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111395 Shiloh Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:15:56 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111395 This was done 3300 years ago. It's called the Torah. It defines who is a Jew and who is not. It defines who we should marry, who should be in our land etc etc. This is spilling the seed. This was done 3300 years ago. It’s called the Torah. It defines who is a Jew and who is not. It defines who we should marry, who should be in our land etc etc. This is spilling the seed.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111369 Ray Bright Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:18:07 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111369 Danny, I agree, nations will never live in peace with each other. Nations have a certain positive role to play, they preserve the unique collective experience of a group of people. The moral/ethical development of humanity is much slower than the scientific and technological, yet the changing circumstances will have an impact on moral development as well. Also, the modern genetics will eliminate the ethnicity and race base for the peoplehood. In an affluent word, money becomes meaningless, and already today, people can come to Jerusalem from Tuscany quicker than from Galilee 3000. Even from Hawaii, the journey can be made within 24 hours. Naturally in the future this may be shortened to 1 hour, about the time it takes to come from Tel Aviv. There is no problem with Jews living in other places and maintaining the support and connection with their ancestral and home in the Land of Israel. Such connections only make Israel and Jews stronger. Danny,
I agree, nations will never live in peace with each other.
Nations have a certain positive role to play, they preserve the unique collective experience of a group of people.
The moral/ethical development of humanity is much slower than the scientific and technological, yet the changing circumstances will have an impact on moral development as well. Also, the modern genetics will eliminate the ethnicity and race base for the peoplehood.
In an affluent word, money becomes meaningless, and already today, people can come to Jerusalem from Tuscany quicker than from Galilee 3000. Even from Hawaii, the journey can be made within 24 hours.
Naturally in the future this may be shortened to 1 hour, about the time it takes to come from Tel Aviv.

There is no problem with Jews living in other places and maintaining the support and connection with their ancestral and home in the Land of Israel. Such connections only make Israel and Jews stronger.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111368 Ray Bright Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:08:26 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111368 Danny, I am saying that you and I, are members of the Jewish nation, and we have a certain commonality deep in our psyche. However I think I understand your question: We need a definition of a Jew. I think a good working definition of a Jew is any individual who wholeheartedly identify himself as a member of the Jewish people. I believe that for long time to come a great majority of such individuals will be ethnic Jews and individuals from mixed heritage. Additionally there will be people who for reasons not known to us, want to be a part of the Jewish people. I know several such people, several of them believe that the reason why they feel such affinity with the Jewish people is that they are descendants of Jewish ancestors who converted to save their lives. There must be some agreed upon method for testing ones Jewish nationality. I don't have the answer, it is something that would have to be invented in such ways that it satisfied the needs of both religious and non-religious Jews. I do think that willingness to serve in the armed forces is certainly one of the criteria, but perhaps neither sufficient, nor absolutely necessary. I would also think that a test of knowledge of the history of the Jewish people, should be a part of the test. Danny,

I am saying that you and I, are members of the Jewish nation, and we have a certain commonality deep in our psyche. However I think I understand your question: We need a definition of a Jew. I think a good working definition of a Jew is any individual who wholeheartedly identify himself as a member of the Jewish people.
I believe that for long time to come a great majority of such individuals will be ethnic Jews and individuals from mixed heritage. Additionally there will be people who for reasons not known to us, want to be a part of the Jewish people. I know several such people, several of them believe that the reason why they feel such affinity with the Jewish people is that they are descendants of Jewish ancestors who converted to save their lives.

There must be some agreed upon method for testing ones Jewish nationality. I don’t have the answer, it is something that would have to be invented in such ways that it satisfied the needs of both religious and non-religious Jews.
I do think that willingness to serve in the armed forces is certainly one of the criteria, but perhaps neither sufficient, nor absolutely necessary.
I would also think that a test of knowledge of the history of the Jewish people, should be a part of the test.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111366 Danny the Admin Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:02:46 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111366 So you suggest that the basic law of the State of Israel commands all the inhabitants to "think and talk" like you? Sort of too subtle for a policy, no? Please use Reply to this comment feature. So you suggest that the basic law of the State of Israel commands all the inhabitants to “think and talk” like you? Sort of too subtle for a policy, no?

Please use Reply to this comment feature.

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111365 chaim Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:57:52 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111365 Of course it's for us. But we need to know how to operate it. G-d knew why he ordered to build a temple, because there is always the change to do the things right. But there is the chance to do the opposite. Guess what, temple service WAS perfect sometimes. Of course it’s for us. But we need to know how to operate it. G-d knew why he ordered to build a temple, because there is always the change to do the things right. But there is the chance to do the opposite.
Guess what, temple service WAS perfect sometimes.

]]> By: tarawa http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111364 tarawa Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:08:37 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111364 Ray I assure you that you may not have 1000 years, in light of current world events. If I may, Nations will never live in peace with one other Nations, I belive that is a wrong headed hypothesis. *Others may find Hawaii, or Tuscany more attractive.* If there is extreme idolatry - love of money(being the root of all evil), yes I agree. Ray

I assure you that you may not have 1000 years, in light of current world events. If I may, Nations will never live in peace with one other Nations, I belive that is a wrong headed hypothesis.

*Others may find Hawaii, or Tuscany more attractive.* If there is extreme idolatry – love of money(being the root of all evil), yes I agree.

]]> By: tarawa http://samsonblinded.org/blog/right-wing-minimalism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111363 tarawa Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:59:44 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1778#comment-111363 3rd temple is a great idea, one that is way overdue! 3rd temple is a great idea, one that is way overdue!

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