Comments on: Rape, then and now http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: fru http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-115634 fru Fri, 28 May 2010 21:27:50 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-115634 kill ALL leftwing shit - then the ayrabs and murderers they breed and protect. kill ALL leftwing shit – then the ayrabs and murderers they breed and protect.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109536 Danny the Admin Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:07:55 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-109536 The "majority"? Of "morals"? Whoa, I didn't realized that. Look, Jackie, probably you're fond of FDR, as most Americans are. So look up something which is called "Portsmouth Conference." There, President Roosevelt and Churchill authorized the expulsion of 12 million ethnic Germans from Poland and Czechoslovakia. And maybe you think that President Wilson was a moral man, probably yes. Look up the thing which is called "Graeco-Turkish population exchange," also a mutual expulsion. This sort of thing brings peace to the land. The “majority”? Of “morals”? Whoa, I didn’t realized that.
Look, Jackie, probably you’re fond of FDR, as most Americans are. So look up something which is called “Portsmouth Conference.” There, President Roosevelt and Churchill authorized the expulsion of 12 million ethnic Germans from Poland and Czechoslovakia.
And maybe you think that President Wilson was a moral man, probably yes. Look up the thing which is called “Graeco-Turkish population exchange,” also a mutual expulsion.
This sort of thing brings peace to the land.

]]> By: Jackie http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109533 Jackie Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:11:49 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-109533 If the point is to advocate kicking Muslims out of Israel, you are advocating the destruction the the majority of the world's morals. Imagine if you were a Muslim, and you had been born in Israel, and everything you loved was there. Would you want to lose it? And yes, I believe in a Jewish homeland. However, following the most basic rule we learn as infants, that we must share; is something that all inhabithants of the land called Isreal must follow. If the point is to advocate kicking Muslims out of Israel, you are advocating the destruction the the majority of the world’s morals. Imagine if you were a Muslim, and you had been born in Israel, and everything you loved was there. Would you want to lose it? And yes, I believe in a Jewish homeland. However, following the most basic rule we learn as infants, that we must share; is something that all inhabithants of the land called Isreal must follow.

]]> By: P Heels http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82238 P Heels Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:23:27 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-82238 To Joseph - at last, someone who reads the Word with the wisdom and understanding of Solomon. To bar and the rest - Listen to what the man says. In the Christian New Testament Gospels there is a story about a conversation that a group of Young religious Jews were having. They were sitting on a rise and were over looking the Temple and its adjoining buildings and their conversation was about this and when Messiah would take up his rightful place an reinstall the Throne of David, returning soverign rule back to Israel, removing the oppression of Rome. They were given a prophecy that they would not have completely understood at that time, however events that were to occur very shortly would begin to herald the commencement of its fulfilment. The fact that we have the state of Israel again situated in its rightful place, and that Jewish people of the diaspora are not only returning to that land but are also returning to the Book is testimony to the fact that those words, spoken on that Israeli hilltop so long ago were infact inspired words from the Creator above. Only when the Temple is restored and Messiah comes and unites all Israeli's under a Theocratic government will we see any real change in this world. Open your eyes and your minds. Open the Book and see what all the prophets of old have to say about these end times, and join with the rest of those who really seek to honour and worship their Heavenly Father, and pray for Israel's Messiah. He alone is capable of solving the problems that face the entire world. It is not only Israel, but all of our combined futures that rely upon the fulfilment of these events. To Joseph – at last, someone who reads the Word with the wisdom and understanding of Solomon.
To bar and the rest – Listen to what the man says.
In the Christian New Testament Gospels there is a story about a conversation that a group of Young religious Jews were having. They were sitting on a rise and were over looking the Temple and its adjoining buildings and their conversation was about this and when Messiah would take up his rightful place an reinstall the Throne of David, returning soverign rule back to Israel, removing the oppression of Rome.
They were given a prophecy that they would not have completely understood at that time, however events that were to occur very shortly would begin to herald the commencement of its fulfilment.
The fact that we have the state of Israel again situated in its rightful place, and that Jewish people of the diaspora are not only returning to that land but are also returning to the Book is testimony to the fact that those words, spoken on that Israeli hilltop so long ago were infact inspired words from the Creator above.
Only when the Temple is restored and Messiah comes and unites all Israeli’s under a Theocratic government will we see any real change in this world.
Open your eyes and your minds. Open the Book and see what all the prophets of old have to say about these end times, and join with the rest of those who really seek to honour and worship their Heavenly Father, and pray for Israel’s Messiah. He alone is capable of solving the problems that face the entire world. It is not only Israel, but all of our combined futures that rely upon the fulfilment of these events.

]]> By: Joseph . E- Givatayim-Israel http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-79460 Joseph . E- Givatayim-Israel Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:05:53 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-79460 To # bar , Australia Then go be a reform jew and say that the G'D of Abraham is your G'D while we jews have rejected you . Unlike a State` constitution wich may be changed , G'D Laws are eternal and they are explained to us by our sages steeped in Divine wisdom . Only such sages may control the material world for the better use by G'D` word. And when yous say " The rules of society that worked in a tribal anarchic society are unlikely to provide good guidance in a modern, integrated society." Then look around you at the modern materialist society , there is no tranquility , no security but much suffering and injury , and that`s called the peace of the wicked . Only one way to stop that , and it is to rebuild G'D House Moriah` Temple Mount , For people to rejoyce in G'D creation . So far the wicked powers of Edom and Ishmael , Washington , London , Rome , Moscow and Mecca say NO . Add in with them those progressive liberal leftists who preach tolerance , appeasement , concessions and peace overtures as double standard against Israel while they exploit them as code word to pervert Judaism , to swindle the Jewish State off its Jewish Lands and to kill Jews . To # bar , Australia

Then go be a reform jew and say that the G’D of Abraham is your G’D while we jews have rejected you .

Unlike a State` constitution wich may be changed ,

G’D Laws are eternal and they are explained to us by our sages steeped in Divine wisdom .

Only such sages may control the material world for the better use by G’D` word.

And when yous say ” The rules of society that worked in a tribal anarchic society are unlikely to provide good guidance in a modern, integrated society.”

Then look around you at the modern materialist society , there is no tranquility , no security but much suffering and injury , and that`s called the peace of the wicked .

Only one way to stop that , and it is to rebuild G’D House Moriah` Temple Mount ,
For people to rejoyce in G’D creation .

So far the wicked powers of Edom and Ishmael , Washington , London , Rome , Moscow and Mecca say NO .

Add in with them those progressive liberal leftists who preach tolerance , appeasement , concessions and peace overtures as double standard against Israel while they exploit them as code word to pervert Judaism , to swindle the Jewish State off its Jewish Lands and to kill Jews .

]]> By: LARRY http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77994 LARRY Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:09:51 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-77994 ONE BIG MISTAKE YOU CAN'T SAY SHIMON AND LEVI AND SHIMON AND JACOB IN THE SAME BREATH. GOD NEVER ABANDONS HISTORY ONE BIG MISTAKE YOU CAN’T SAY SHIMON AND LEVI AND SHIMON AND JACOB IN THE SAME BREATH.

GOD NEVER ABANDONS HISTORY

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77964 Danny the Admin Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:13:49 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-77964 The issue is, are Arabs proper (loyal) citizens of Israel or just the enemies not yet expelled? Perhaps the cleansing which started 1947-48 is not finished yet? In Kahane's words, does anyone believe that Arabs can be proud citizens of a state that calls itself Jewish, whose anthem speaks of the Jewish soul, etc? The issue is, are Arabs proper (loyal) citizens of Israel or just the enemies not yet expelled? Perhaps the cleansing which started 1947-48 is not finished yet?
In Kahane’s words, does anyone believe that Arabs can be proud citizens of a state that calls itself Jewish, whose anthem speaks of the Jewish soul, etc?

]]> By: bar http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77943 bar Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:56:15 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-77943 Ray: Then why did Obadiah quote the story of Schem? + Speaking of current events. Jews are entitled to a national homeland, and the UN has granted them the land they call Israel. According to current international standards, the state can determine immigration policy, and declare a secular state. Discrimination against, or murder of one's own citizens is frowned upon. + Insofar as Gaza is a separate nation, then the government in Gaza is responsible for any act of war originating from within their territory If Israel chooses to respond by sealing it's borders and attacking the perpetrators, then that seems to be a reasonable response to missile attacks. The Government in Gaza should restrain those who perform those provocations. Perhaps Gazans will learn to elect a government that does not allow such provocative acts from it's territory. Ray: Then why did Obadiah quote the story of Schem?
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Speaking of current events. Jews are entitled to a national homeland, and the UN has granted them the land they call Israel. According to current international standards, the state can determine immigration policy, and declare a secular state. Discrimination against, or murder of one’s own citizens is frowned upon.
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Insofar as Gaza is a separate nation, then the government in Gaza is responsible for any act of war originating from within their territory If Israel chooses to respond by sealing it’s borders and attacking the perpetrators, then that seems to be a reasonable response to missile attacks. The Government in Gaza should restrain those who perform those provocations. Perhaps Gazans will learn to elect a government that does not allow such provocative acts from it’s territory.

]]> By: Erick S http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77837 Erick S Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:46:07 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-77837 Eloquently put, Ray. Eloquently put, Ray.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/rape-then-and-now.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77827 Ray Bright Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:21:16 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/639.htm#comment-77827 Bar, I am not a Torah believer. Yet, I believe that Jews have the right to have a country and for that country to be Jewish, and have defensible borders, and have a preference that this country should include the historical Jewish homeland of the Land of Israel. = I have never read Obadiah advocating extermination of entire Arab "race", nor of "Israeli Arabs". He I believe he advocates transferring them to another Arab Muslim country. I believe that your equating transfer with wholesale slaughter of Jews(advocated by Muslim fanatics and Nazis) is unjust. Unfortunately this equation is quite common in the Wester leftist press. == Ethnic cleansing of (most) Arabs out of Israel is indeed ugly and unfair on individual basis. Yet, this is precisely how practically all existing countries came to be: Through wars of conquest and if necessary ethnic cleansing. Forced "nationalization" of the conquered people is an alternative to ethnic cleansing: For example in America for long time American Indians, Hawaiians and other native people were forced to go to American schools where they were not allowed to use their native language. Likewise the practice of native religion in Hawaii was forbidden. Similar policy was applied to Australian natives in Australia. Many German and Austrian people have Slavic last names. They may be ethnically Slavs, but they are entirely German. The conquered Slavs (Poles, Chechs, etc) were forced to go to German speaking schools. = Without exception all of planet Earth is covered by national states created by conquest, ethnic cleansing and nationalization of natives. It is unjust and unfair to demand that Jews should be live by different standards. Bar,

I am not a Torah believer. Yet, I believe that Jews have the right to have a country and for that country to be Jewish, and have defensible borders, and have a preference that this country should include the historical Jewish homeland of the Land of Israel.
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I have never read Obadiah advocating extermination of entire Arab “race”, nor of “Israeli Arabs”. He I believe he advocates transferring them to another Arab Muslim country. I believe that your equating transfer with wholesale slaughter of Jews(advocated by Muslim fanatics and Nazis) is unjust. Unfortunately this equation is quite common in the Wester leftist press.
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Ethnic cleansing of (most) Arabs out of Israel is indeed ugly and unfair on individual basis. Yet, this is precisely how practically all existing countries came to be: Through wars of conquest and if necessary ethnic cleansing. Forced “nationalization” of the conquered people is an alternative to ethnic cleansing: For example in America for long time American Indians, Hawaiians and other native people were forced to go to American schools where they were not allowed to use their native language. Likewise the practice of native religion in Hawaii was forbidden.
Similar policy was applied to Australian natives in Australia.

Many German and Austrian people have Slavic last names. They may be ethnically Slavs, but they are entirely German. The conquered Slavs (Poles, Chechs, etc) were forced to go to German speaking schools.
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Without exception all of planet Earth is covered by national states created by conquest, ethnic cleansing and nationalization of natives. It is unjust and unfair to demand that Jews should be live by different standards.

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