Comments on: The politics of hatred http://samsonblinded.org/blog/politics-of-hatred.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/politics-of-hatred.htm/comment-page-1#comment-70809 Danny the Admin Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:34:32 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/597.htm#comment-70809 To Jouko: Still more paragraph breaks? OK. To Ray: Social experiments continuously go on in all societies. The conservative attitude is to keep experiments small-scale and erect entry barriers for them. Socialist attitude is large-scale experimentation, sort of the Cultural Revolution. To Jouko: Still more paragraph breaks? OK.

To Ray: Social experiments continuously go on in all societies. The conservative attitude is to keep experiments small-scale and erect entry barriers for them. Socialist attitude is large-scale experimentation, sort of the Cultural Revolution.

]]> By: Jouko Piho http://samsonblinded.org/blog/politics-of-hatred.htm/comment-page-1#comment-70548 Jouko Piho Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:08:50 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/597.htm#comment-70548 A little wish from Finland Could it be possible that Obadiah would write more in the way that he would divide his writings more into paragaphs? Now when the paragraphs are so long, it is not so easy to read them. Jouko Piho A little wish from Finland

Could it be possible that Obadiah would write more in the way that he would divide his writings more into paragaphs?

Now when the paragraphs are so long, it is not so easy to read them.

Jouko Piho

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/politics-of-hatred.htm/comment-page-1#comment-70543 Ray Bright Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:38:27 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/597.htm#comment-70543 To Danny Oh, my God! I must be a conservative simpleton. I missed the sarcasm. My confusion is that I actually agree with many of the sarcastic statements about the conservatives, so I missed that they were sarcastic. For example I believe that experimentation with societies is just as valid as experimentation with physics or biology. I believe that we can learn tremendously much from social experiments including kibutzes and other communes and communities. I believe that the leftist problem is not with experimentation but with dogmatism. They make experiments but they don't learn from them. They hold dogma above the experiments and above the observation. This is where they deviate from scientific method. Unfortunately the "conservatives" are just as dogmatic, the main difference is that they are blinded by a different dogma. The real intelligence is never dogmatic. It is able to learn and adjust it every moment. IT is always fresh. What I love about Obadiah's thinking is that he is the LEAST dogmatic political analyst I have ever read. I love his undogmatic ireverence and I truly regret when at times it seems that a dogma afterall does creep in. To Danny
Oh, my God! I must be a conservative simpleton. I missed the sarcasm. My confusion is that I actually agree with many of the sarcastic statements about the conservatives, so I missed that they were sarcastic.
For example I believe that experimentation with societies is just as valid as experimentation with physics or biology. I believe that we can learn tremendously much from social experiments including kibutzes and other communes and communities. I believe that the leftist problem is not with experimentation but with dogmatism. They make experiments but they don’t learn from them. They hold dogma above the experiments and above the observation. This is where they deviate from scientific method. Unfortunately the “conservatives” are just as dogmatic, the main difference is that they are blinded by a different dogma. The real intelligence is never dogmatic. It is able to learn and adjust it every moment. IT is always fresh. What I love about Obadiah’s thinking is that he is the LEAST dogmatic political analyst I have ever read. I love his undogmatic ireverence and I truly regret when at times it seems that a dogma afterall does creep in.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/politics-of-hatred.htm/comment-page-1#comment-70540 Danny the Admin Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:09:14 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/597.htm#comment-70540 Uh, Obadiah is sarcastic here. He means, the conservatives are correct in their old-fashioned views, and wrongly belittled by "progressives." Uh, Obadiah is sarcastic here. He means, the conservatives are correct in their old-fashioned views, and wrongly belittled by “progressives.”

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/politics-of-hatred.htm/comment-page-1#comment-70536 Ray Bright Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:14:53 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/597.htm#comment-70536 This must be Obadiah’s most puzzling post so far. Very interesting, many great observations, and at the same time some very strange statements: Perhaps I don’t understand because he is speaking specifically about Israeli “Conservatives” and “Leftists”, not in general. Otherwise his statements are most puzzling: For example: [Conservatives] reject the self-evident notion that peace can be achieved through negotiations and insist on the old-fashioned victory. Now, as hard as I try, I can’t see that there is anything “self-evident”. Especially not in case of Israel and Arab: Perhaps, only perhaps peace can be achieved through negotiation. But is it really self-evident??? Or this statement: Conservatives don’t believe that great minds shape societies, and maintain that societies develop on their own. I would have thought that this was a standard leftist/Marxist belief that: The development of the means of production drive the social changes. In Marxism there is some sort of inevitability in a wind of history blowing and moving everything along. I thought that with conservatives it is the other way around. At least here in America. Or this: Conservatives insult great politicians by doubting their role and influence. Hmm, I personally don’t think that Regan was that great, but American conservatives worship him and think that he was a savior. This must be Obadiah’s most puzzling post so far. Very interesting, many great observations, and at the same time some very strange statements:
Perhaps I don’t understand because he is speaking specifically about Israeli “Conservatives” and “Leftists”, not in general. Otherwise his statements are most puzzling:
For example:
[Conservatives] reject the self-evident notion that peace can be achieved through negotiations and insist on the old-fashioned victory.
Now, as hard as I try, I can’t see that there is anything “self-evident”. Especially not in case of Israel and Arab: Perhaps, only perhaps peace can be achieved through negotiation. But is it really self-evident???

Or this statement:
Conservatives don’t believe that great minds shape societies, and maintain that societies develop on their own.
I would have thought that this was a standard leftist/Marxist belief that: The development of the means of production drive the social changes. In Marxism there is some sort of inevitability in a wind of history blowing and moving everything along.
I thought that with conservatives it is the other way around. At least here in America.

Or this:
Conservatives insult great politicians by doubting their role and influence.
Hmm, I personally don’t think that Regan was that great, but American conservatives worship him and think that he was a savior.

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