Comments on: Could Al Qaeda have perpetrated 9/11? http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Viit http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116652 Viit Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:53:05 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-116652 Just re-read your article. The fire did not need to melt steel. Instead just warming it up to some 800C is sufficient for the steel to lose all strength and become soft easily bending. Just re-read your article.
The fire did not need to melt steel. Instead just warming it up to some 800C is sufficient for the steel to lose all strength and become soft easily bending.

]]> By: Anonymous http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116292 Anonymous Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:47:26 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-116292 I agree with the conspiracy theory and I add here the Israeli Mossad . As you said there are many missing things and silly things found after the crash like an Arab passport, a paper in Arabic explaining how to fly the plane. Now the question is why America and Israel benefiting from this conpiracy? First beneficial are the Israelies that the Americans in particular and the west in general will hate Arabs and Muslims and fight each other. As you know, America is controlled by the Jewish lobby and control most of the Congress and the Senate. In other words, they pas any policy they want. I agree with the conspiracy theory and I add here the Israeli Mossad . As you said there are many missing things and silly things found after the crash like an Arab passport, a paper in Arabic explaining how to fly the plane.
Now the question is why America and Israel benefiting from this conpiracy? First beneficial are the Israelies that the Americans in particular and the west in general will hate Arabs and Muslims and fight each other. As you know, America is controlled by the Jewish lobby and control most of the Congress and the Senate. In other words, they pas any policy they want.

]]> By: No name http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116226 No name Thu, 28 Oct 2010 22:55:09 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-116226 Oh for crying out loud. This lunacy is all over the internet and has been refuted in countless places. There are real morons peddling this and it surprises me that obadiah would fall for a ruse like those of the 9/11 truthtards. For example "The official version contains many incongruent details, including puddles of molten steel," No, that's not the 'official version' but that is the Official Straw-man of the 9/11 truthtards. "The towers also collapsed long after the kerosene had burned away," Not a relevant point. It collapsed for structural reasons due to the damage and the fires which WEAKENED, (not melted) the steel columns. The scientists have explained why the buildings collapsed. Only ignorant morons and propagandists question their science. " and in the absence of major afterfires." lol, this is a joke right? If you heard 9.11 calls from people choking in the heat inside, you would know that there were entire floors on fire and the heat was spreading along with smoke. People on the 9.11 calls say how hot it is inside. "There was also the absurd story of the Boeing plane’s wings liquefying before it crashed into the Pentagon. " Whose story was that? Why not focus on the actual facts instead of phony stories which no one claims are true. "Flight 93 It is unusual that the hijackers allowed the passengers to make phone calls. " No, it isn't. The hijackers - all of them - went into the cockpit after the initial takeover. This was the same pattern in all 4 hijackings. They had no idea what was going on outside the cockpit. That explains why they tried to communicate with the passengers by radio on one of the flights (they were actually on the transponder and the message was sent to flight control instead!) saying to stay calm and don't try anything because they have a bomb and they're just taking the plane back to the airport. There would be no need for a radio like that if other hijackers were patrolling the body of the plane and keeping passengers in check telling them this same message. Don't be a moron. Oh for crying out loud. This lunacy is all over the internet and has been refuted in countless places. There are real morons peddling this and it surprises me that obadiah would fall for a ruse like those of the 9/11 truthtards.

For example
“The official version contains many incongruent details, including puddles of molten steel,”

No, that’s not the ‘official version’ but that is the Official Straw-man of the 9/11 truthtards.

“The towers also collapsed long after the kerosene had burned away,”

Not a relevant point. It collapsed for structural reasons due to the damage and the fires which WEAKENED, (not melted) the steel columns. The scientists have explained why the buildings collapsed. Only ignorant morons and propagandists question their science.

” and in the absence of major afterfires.”

lol, this is a joke right? If you heard 9.11 calls from people choking in the heat inside, you would know that there were entire floors on fire and the heat was spreading along with smoke. People on the 9.11 calls say how hot it is inside.

“There was also the absurd story of the Boeing plane’s wings liquefying before it crashed into the Pentagon. ”

Whose story was that? Why not focus on the actual facts instead of phony stories which no one claims are true.

“Flight 93
It is unusual that the hijackers allowed the passengers to make phone calls. ”

No, it isn’t. The hijackers – all of them – went into the cockpit after the initial takeover. This was the same pattern in all 4 hijackings. They had no idea what was going on outside the cockpit. That explains why they tried to communicate with the passengers by radio on one of the flights (they were actually on the transponder and the message was sent to flight control instead!) saying to stay calm and don’t try anything because they have a bomb and they’re just taking the plane back to the airport. There would be no need for a radio like that if other hijackers were patrolling the body of the plane and keeping passengers in check telling them this same message. Don’t be a moron.

]]> By: Timprett http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-115791 Timprett Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:51:41 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-115791 Of course Al Qaeeda was not behind 9-11. It was perpetrated by the US govt to give them the right to pursue their agenda(wars etc) The comparison to Reichstag is apt. That means Bin Laden is a fraud. This being said Muslims hate 'us' with a vengeance and need to be dealt with.. Of course Al Qaeeda was not behind 9-11.

It was perpetrated by the US govt to give them the right to pursue their agenda(wars etc)
The comparison to Reichstag is apt.

That means Bin Laden is a fraud.
This being said Muslims hate ‘us’ with a vengeance and need to be dealt with..

]]> By: Jake http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113736 Jake Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:42:54 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-113736 The biggest lie about 9/11 is that there were no explosives in those towers. Everything else is tough to call (for me at least). Why has no one suggested that a foreign government planned the attack, such as the Russians (many reasons), or the British (to drag the US into another world war)? If it was an Al-Qaeda terrorist attack, why didn't the official story acknowledge that the group planted explosives in those buildings, then flew airliners into them for theatrics? Is that so inconceivable? (Maybe it is, if Al-Qaeda was behind it, but I wouldn't put it past a foreign intelligence agency to pull that off). If the plan was hatched by an enemy state, the U.S. was smart to blame terrorists, because otherwise WWIII would have broken out on 9/12. There are many unanswered questions, but I don't see why no one is blaming another government. If any government was behind it, why assume it was the U.S. government? The biggest lie about 9/11 is that there were no explosives in those towers. Everything else is tough to call (for me at least).

Why has no one suggested that a foreign government planned the attack, such as the Russians (many reasons), or the British (to drag the US into another world war)?

If it was an Al-Qaeda terrorist attack, why didn’t the official story acknowledge that the group planted explosives in those buildings, then flew airliners into them for theatrics? Is that so inconceivable? (Maybe it is, if Al-Qaeda was behind it, but I wouldn’t put it past a foreign intelligence agency to pull that off). If the plan was hatched by an enemy state, the U.S. was smart to blame terrorists, because otherwise WWIII would have broken out on 9/12.

There are many unanswered questions, but I don’t see why no one is blaming another government. If any government was behind it, why assume it was the U.S. government?

]]> By: Natalie http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113290 Natalie Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:44:04 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-113290 Peter Lance in his investigations has uncovered a lot of information on al Qaeda US cell, some of which the government covered up. He thinks that al Qaeda is responsible for Kahane's death and that after unsuccessful attempt to blow up the towers in 1993, Ramzi Yousef came up with a new plan of using planes as bombs. He also produced other plans, such as the Bojinka plot of blowing up 11 jumbo jets and a plot to kill the Pope during his visit to the Philippines. He was captured by pure chance but his idea was carried out by his uncle Khalid Sheikh Mouhammed. FBI was informed by the Philippino police about this plan as early as 1995, but didn't act on it. There was also a thwarted attempt to fly the jet into the Eiffel's tower by the hijackers. Check out peterlance.com, there's a lot of information there. I think that attack was carried out by al Qaeda, however, it's quite possible that there was some government "assistance" too. Also, Osama had openly quarreled with the Saudi government over American presence in his country, so it made sense for him to try implicating the Saudis. Peter Lance in his investigations has uncovered a lot of information on al Qaeda US cell, some of which the government covered up. He thinks that al Qaeda is responsible for Kahane’s death and that after unsuccessful attempt to blow up the towers in 1993, Ramzi Yousef came up with a new plan of using planes as bombs. He also produced other plans, such as the Bojinka plot of blowing up 11 jumbo jets and a plot to kill the Pope during his visit to the Philippines. He was captured by pure chance but his idea was carried out by his uncle Khalid Sheikh Mouhammed. FBI was informed by the Philippino police about this plan as early as 1995, but didn’t act on it. There was also a thwarted attempt to fly the jet into the Eiffel’s tower by the hijackers.

Check out peterlance.com, there’s a lot of information there. I think that attack was carried out by al Qaeda, however, it’s quite possible that there was some government “assistance” too.

Also, Osama had openly quarreled with the Saudi government over American presence in his country, so it made sense for him to try implicating the Saudis.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96303 Danny the Admin Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:43:17 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-96303 I'm less than sure about the molten steel. This <a href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/338140/molten_steel_at_wtcs/" rel="nofollow">9/11 video</a> is not conclusive at all, though the thermal diagram is interesting. The biggest argument against Osama's involvement in the 9/11 are 3: 1. He has never claimed to plan the operation, though Al Qaeda routinely claimed others' terrorist acts. 2. The planning and skill involved far exceeds the established terrorist capabilities. 3. Though the attacks proved hugely successful for the terrorists, there were no attempts at repeating them. I’m less than sure about the molten steel. This 9/11 video is not conclusive at all, though the thermal diagram is interesting.
The biggest argument against Osama’s involvement in the 9/11 are 3:
1. He has never claimed to plan the operation, though Al Qaeda routinely claimed others’ terrorist acts.
2. The planning and skill involved far exceeds the established terrorist capabilities.
3. Though the attacks proved hugely successful for the terrorists, there were no attempts at repeating them.

]]> By: VL http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-96278 VL Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:22:24 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-96278 Wow. Presenting the lies of "9/11 Truthers" as if they are facts?? This entry is a joke. I advise you to research this topic before parroting lies like this. _ Just to clue you in: puddles of molten steel - lie. Wow. Presenting the lies of “9/11 Truthers” as if they are facts?? This entry is a joke. I advise you to research this topic before parroting lies like this.
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Just to clue you in: puddles of molten steel – lie.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89579 Danny the Admin Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:26:28 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-89579 Er, not exactly. A lot of people in Israel were exhilarated over the 9/11 which was expected to strengthen the American ties with Israel. And Iranians didn't celebrate the 9/11, but on the contrary, went into the streets to show solidarity to Americans. Er, not exactly. A lot of people in Israel were exhilarated over the 9/11 which was expected to strengthen the American ties with Israel. And Iranians didn’t celebrate the 9/11, but on the contrary, went into the streets to show solidarity to Americans.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm/comment-page-1#comment-89550 Ray Bright Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:51:57 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/osama-too-good-to-be-true-part-2.htm#comment-89550 Jack, Just face simple realities:Did people dance in the street of Tel Aviv after the 9/11 attack? No, they danced all over Palestine. Muslims everywhere, even in America celebrated the attack. == Besides, AIPAC is not that powerful. A bunch of lame-ass lobbiers. They are highly over-rated. Jack,
Just face simple realities:Did people dance in the street of Tel Aviv after the 9/11 attack?
No, they danced all over Palestine. Muslims everywhere, even in America celebrated the attack.
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Besides, AIPAC is not that powerful. A bunch of lame-ass lobbiers. They are highly over-rated.

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