Comments on: Not rabbis http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: elihart http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-73842 elihart Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:59:53 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-73842 Walid, Even if you were correct in all you stated about Danny, why blame him for adhering to Torah? I do not know whether Danny is an intellectual or not, but that is not the issue here. The issue is tha Torah states that Israel and only Israel will at some point possess the land! Most Palestinians are displaced Jordanians, they do not belong in Israel. Nor do the Christians or any other of the idolatrous religions. Shalom, Eli Walid,
Even if you were correct in all you stated about Danny, why blame him for adhering to Torah? I do not know whether Danny is an intellectual or not, but that is not the issue here. The issue is tha Torah states that Israel and only Israel will at some point possess the land! Most Palestinians are displaced Jordanians, they do not belong in Israel. Nor do the Christians or any other of the idolatrous religions. Shalom, Eli

]]> By: Shlomo http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-54483 Shlomo Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:20:57 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-54483 If you have an open mind I would like to point you to a site to help counter your anti-rabbinic ideology. www.600000men.com That is not to say that all rabbis are worth following, Just some rabbis who are like angels of G-d in their charachter traits are worth following. Even in the time of Moshe, the people had the obligation to choose Calev and Yehoshua and ignore the Meraglim scholars. History proves that in the long run Karaite ideology can not be sustained and Rabbis are needed in order to keep Jews attached throughout the generations to the Torah. Your ivory tower assumptions about the Torah don't work in the real world If you have an open mind I would like to point you to a site to help counter your anti-rabbinic ideology. http://www.600000men.com
That is not to say that all rabbis are worth following, Just some rabbis who are like angels of G-d in their charachter traits are worth following.
Even in the time of Moshe, the people had the obligation to choose Calev and Yehoshua and ignore the Meraglim scholars.
History proves that in the long run Karaite ideology can not be sustained and Rabbis are needed in order to keep Jews attached throughout the generations to the Torah.
Your ivory tower assumptions about the Torah don’t work in the real world

]]> By: Roger http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-47426 Roger Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:27:31 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-47426 Well, I could add something here. Palestine as a country with its own culture or language has never existed, just the same as Jordan, which actually was a piece of land taken by arabs with the help of the British Mandate. The jews are the only ones entitled to that land...and want it or not, God has given this land to the jews who will never be removed from it. The arab countries can have thousands of armies ready to take over as they have tried before, but to no avail, the Lord will always stand with the jews, because allah is not god, it is the moon god worshipped by arab nomads before Muhammed,and the Quran was a book written not by Muhammed but by prince Uthman 150 years after Muhammed's death. So thousands of years before Islam was created (at least Muhammad's version of Islam) the jews had a complete society on that land, that someday, hopefully, will be back to its own owners, not the muslims for sure. Well, I could add something here. Palestine as a country with its own culture or language has never existed, just the same as Jordan, which actually was a piece of land taken by arabs with the help of the British Mandate. The jews are the only ones entitled to that land…and want it or not, God has given this land to the jews who will never be removed from it. The arab countries can have thousands of armies ready to take over as they have tried before, but to no avail, the Lord will always stand with the jews, because allah is not god, it is the moon god worshipped by arab nomads before Muhammed,and the Quran was a book written not by Muhammed but by prince Uthman 150 years after Muhammed’s death. So thousands of years before Islam was created (at least Muhammad’s version of Islam) the jews had a complete society on that land, that someday, hopefully, will be back to its own owners, not the muslims for sure.

]]> By: Walid Maaytah http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18803 Walid Maaytah Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:20:30 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18803 Danny, And who are the Jews ?..with that I don't mean to denegrate them but if you want to use this idiotic argument, then same question applies...and the answer doesn't add any credibility to them. I don't really know why I am wasting my time with you. You are unarguably no intellectual that can carry an intelligent conversation or answer questions with any logic or evidence..you only resort to and respond with nonsensical ranting which is, void of any intelligence and filled with astoundingly low IQ argument- and can only burst out childish, hateful, racist remarks that don't make any sense to anyone who isn't on your pathalogical level of blind hate and anger. seek help and therapy my friend...God knows you are in bad need for it...you and those who share your dark-ages ideas.With friends like you, Israel and Jews don't need enemies...you do a great job at smearing them- just by associating your demented mentality with them. Danny, And who are the Jews ?..with that I don’t mean to denegrate them but if you want to use this idiotic argument, then same question applies…and the answer doesn’t add any credibility to them. I don’t really know why I am wasting my time with you. You are unarguably no intellectual that can carry an intelligent conversation or answer questions with any logic or evidence..you only resort to and respond with nonsensical ranting which is, void of any intelligence and filled with astoundingly low IQ argument- and can only burst out childish, hateful, racist remarks that don’t make any sense to anyone who isn’t on your pathalogical level of blind hate and anger. seek help and therapy my friend…God knows you are in bad need for it…you and those who share your dark-ages ideas.With friends like you, Israel and Jews don’t need enemies…you do a great job at smearing them- just by associating your demented mentality with them.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18725 Danny the Admin Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:07:07 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18725 But who were the Saudis, for that matter? Or the Egyptian Arabs? And why does it matter? A nation or not, Palestinians should not be in Israel. But who were the Saudis, for that matter? Or the Egyptian Arabs? And why does it matter? A nation or not, Palestinians should not be in Israel.

]]> By: Beta http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18706 Beta Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:39:59 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18706 Who were the Palestinians of history? Was there a Palestinian nation, language, or religion? The creation of a "Palestinian People" is one of the greatest achievements in the history of propaganda. Who were the Palestinians of history? Was there a Palestinian nation, language, or religion?

The creation of a “Palestinian People” is one of the greatest achievements in the history of propaganda.

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18475 Alain Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:27:02 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18475 Walid's version of history is rather amusing. "Jordan didn't invade Palestine like Israel did..." can only make one laugh since Jordan was carved out of "Palestine". Considering that the nation of "Palestine" has never existed nor any so-called "Palestinians" such claims are pure rubbish. The only invaders in the area to-day are the Arabs. The Jews are and always will be at home, for this is the Jewish homeland. Walid’s version of history is rather amusing. “Jordan didn’t invade Palestine like Israel did…” can only make one laugh since Jordan was carved out of “Palestine”. Considering that the nation of “Palestine” has never existed nor any so-called “Palestinians” such claims are pure rubbish.

The only invaders in the area to-day are the Arabs. The Jews are and always will be at home, for this is the Jewish homeland.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18733 Danny the Admin Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:58:45 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18733 Walid, among two of us, you the Jordanians killed way more Palestinian Arabs than we the Jews did. Other than that, I have no problem accepting that we displaced the Palestinians. In fact, we are going to displace them from the Land of Israel entirely. Walid, among two of us, you the Jordanians killed way more Palestinian Arabs than we the Jews did. Other than that, I have no problem accepting that we displaced the Palestinians. In fact, we are going to displace them from the Land of Israel entirely.

]]> By: Walid Maaytah http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18451 Walid Maaytah Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:55:52 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18451 Danny, Your feeble attempt at equating what Israel did to the Palestinians with Black September is ludicrous at best. Palestinians, like it still needs more explaining, belong in Palestine, and not in Jordan or anywhere else, whether that thought makes you shiver with repulsion and hate or not. Jordan didn't invade Palestine like Israel did, nor expelled its people and pillage their lands and property under any convenient pretense, which is still going on in broad day light without any shame or guilt. What Israel did to the Palestinians, and you got the whole civilized world testifying to that, is a travesty of justice, an atrocity on historical proportions, which shames any decent Jews in the world.How ironic it is when those who were oppresed and victimized turn around and do the same to others to no fault of theirs and without seeing anything wrong with that; all under the belief that God has given you the deed to that land thousands of years ago - how incredible and outrageous an excuse that is! Your weapon was the American logic-less and decency-defying political and military support, which Israel gets for one and only one reason, which you and I know, and it's not the strength of your moral position, but rather the need of US politicians to get elected or reelected to office, which they feel and know will not happen, most likely, if they didn't support Israel - blindly that is, and if they do they get all the support and money they need to win from the powerful Jewish organizations, but if they don't, they will incur the wrath of these organizations which will mean their political death. See!..what a just, fair and ethicl cause you have that depends on blackmailing greedy, power-hungry American politicians, who neither espose your cause nor beleive in it, but rather use you, like you use them.One more point: I care a lot more than you think about all people of all religions, colors and creeds, including Jews, and to me right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of who is involved, and the life of an Israeli child is just as valuable and dear as the life of a Jordanian or Palestinian child - Which I doubt very much to be the case with you or others like you who put their national or religious zeal before any other ethical consideration, which really doesn't make you any different from any terrorists. Danny, Your feeble attempt at equating what Israel did to the Palestinians with Black September is ludicrous at best. Palestinians, like it still needs more explaining, belong in Palestine, and not in Jordan or anywhere else, whether that thought makes you shiver with repulsion and hate or not. Jordan didn’t invade Palestine like Israel did, nor expelled its people and pillage their lands and property under any convenient pretense, which is still going on in broad day light without any shame or guilt. What Israel did to the Palestinians, and you got the whole civilized world testifying to that, is a travesty of justice, an atrocity on historical proportions, which shames any decent Jews in the world.How ironic it is when those who were oppresed and victimized turn around and do the same to others to no fault of theirs and without seeing anything wrong with that; all under the belief that God has given you the deed to that land thousands of years ago – how incredible and outrageous an excuse that is! Your weapon was the American logic-less and decency-defying political and military support, which Israel gets for one and only one reason, which you and I know, and it’s not the strength of your moral position, but rather the need of US politicians to get elected or reelected to office, which they feel and know will not happen, most likely, if they didn’t support Israel – blindly that is, and if they do they get all the support and money they need to win from the powerful Jewish organizations, but if they don’t, they will incur the wrath of these organizations which will mean their political death. See!..what a just, fair and ethicl cause you have that depends on blackmailing greedy, power-hungry American politicians, who neither espose your cause nor beleive in it, but rather use you, like you use them.One more point: I care a lot more than you think about all people of all religions, colors and creeds, including Jews, and to me right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of who is involved, and the life of an Israeli child is just as valuable and dear as the life of a Jordanian or Palestinian child – Which I doubt very much to be the case with you or others like you who put their national or religious zeal before any other ethical consideration, which really doesn’t make you any different from any terrorists.

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18429 Alain Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:39:33 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/not-rabbis.htm#comment-18429 To Danny: I think you are referring to the secular rejection of Jewish history and roots with the insistence that Israel become just another nation and that will solve all our problems. That was the reason I had understood for returning control of the Temple Mount to the Arabs until I came across the statement that the chief rabbis at the time were against allowing Jews to set foot on it and as a result they recommended that control be given to the Arabs. Like I said I do not know if this is correct or not, but if it is I find it most disgusting. To Danny: I think you are referring to the secular rejection of Jewish history and roots with the insistence that Israel become just another nation and that will solve all our problems. That was the reason I had understood for returning control of the Temple Mount to the Arabs until I came across the statement that the chief rabbis at the time were against allowing Jews to set foot on it and as a result they recommended that control be given to the Arabs. Like I said I do not know if this is correct or not, but if it is I find it most disgusting.

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