Comments on: Never again, and again, and again http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: wouldn't you like to know! http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113604 wouldn't you like to know! Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:05:00 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-113604 you people are crazy!! i know Christians aren't exactly committed to their beliefs, but seriously. is blaming Christians really going to help you atheists wipe religion out?! spreading crud nobody believes will just hurt your perverted cause. you might want to look at www.holocaust-history.org for the real story. by the way, why do atheists want to take their chances with burning in Hell after death? if God does exist, you people will be so screwed, i feel sorry for you just thinking about it. you people are crazy!! i know Christians aren’t exactly committed to their beliefs, but seriously.
is blaming Christians really going to help you atheists wipe religion out?! spreading crud nobody believes will just hurt your perverted cause.
you might want to look at http://www.holocaust-history.org
for the real story. by the way, why do atheists want to take their chances with burning in Hell after death? if God does exist, you people will be so screwed, i feel sorry for you just thinking about it.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111503 Danny the Admin Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:01:33 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-111503 <blockquote>I know you like to yap about how Christianity is so evil and how Jesus Christ was an idiot.</blockquote> Perhaps you did not read the articles. There are no such statements here. Practitioners are evil while teaching is not, and Obadiah is respectful of your founder.

I know you like to yap about how Christianity is so evil and how Jesus Christ was an idiot.

Perhaps you did not read the articles. There are no such statements here. Practitioners are evil while teaching is not, and Obadiah is respectful of your founder.

]]> By: Jacob Stuckey http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111501 Jacob Stuckey Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:58:32 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-111501 I know you like to yap about how Christianity is so evil and how Jesus Christ was an idiot. It saddens me to see the Church go all-out against the Jews, then expect the Jews to accept the Gospel. It is even more disheartening because it has led the Jews to spurn some of Israel's greatest supporters: Messianic Jews. I already told you about Messianic Judaism in another comment. Messianic Jews have always stood firmly behind Israel. Yet the Jews have not reciporated the support. Messianic Jews were forbidden from making aliyah in 1989, and those already in Israel face tremendous hostility from civilians while the Israeli government has remained indifferent to their suffering. The situation dates back to the foundation of the religion as discussed in the B'Rit Hadashah. The most strident opponents of Yeshua's message were the Jewish religious authorities, who feared that Yeshua's teachings would threaten their spiritual power. Later, when Yeshua's Apostles began spreading His message, these same authorities persecuted them with the full assent of the Romans. (Read the account of Stephen's stoning) The false account of Yeshua given in the Talmud was the work of this "brood of vipers." The persecution of the Messianic sect eventually gave rise to anti-Semitism in the Gentile adherents. So they began to purge the religion of its Jewish (read "authentic") elements, turning Yeshua into "Jesus" and concocting "replacement theology" that claimed that G-d was finished with the Jews. In a way, it was the Jewish reaction to Yeshua that brought many centuries of misery upon them. P.S. I'm not Jewish, and I don't follow the Messianic sect. I'm just educating you on the matter. I know you like to yap about how Christianity is so evil and how Jesus Christ was an idiot. It saddens me to see the Church go all-out against the Jews, then expect the Jews to accept the Gospel. It is even more disheartening because it has led the Jews to spurn some of Israel’s greatest supporters: Messianic Jews.
I already told you about Messianic Judaism in another comment. Messianic Jews have always stood firmly behind Israel. Yet the Jews have not reciporated the support. Messianic Jews were forbidden from making aliyah in 1989, and those already in Israel face tremendous hostility from civilians while the Israeli government has remained indifferent to their suffering. The situation dates back to the foundation of the religion as discussed in the B’Rit Hadashah. The most strident opponents of Yeshua’s message were the Jewish religious authorities, who feared that Yeshua’s teachings would threaten their spiritual power. Later, when Yeshua’s Apostles began spreading His message, these same authorities persecuted them with the full assent of the Romans. (Read the account of Stephen’s stoning)
The false account of Yeshua given in the Talmud was the work of this “brood of vipers.”
The persecution of the Messianic sect eventually gave rise to anti-Semitism in the Gentile adherents. So they began to purge the religion of its Jewish (read “authentic”) elements, turning Yeshua into “Jesus” and concocting “replacement theology” that claimed that G-d was finished with the Jews. In a way, it was the Jewish reaction to Yeshua that brought many centuries of misery upon them.
P.S. I’m not Jewish, and I don’t follow the Messianic sect. I’m just educating you on the matter.

]]> By: jerome http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110384 jerome Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:52:56 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-110384 All very interesting, but unfortunately the facts change not one anti- semite's view. This is the problem, Anti semitism is alive and well and thriving all over the world , the word Holocaust is now a hackneyed loose term for any deaths caused by Israel. It is ironic how the Holocaust is denied by radicals but invoked as fact when applying it to palestinians deaths at the hands of the IDF. One can only hope that the younger generation of jews remains as informed as their parents. We can be thankful that leaders in some of the worlds great democracies see the truth despite the demonstrations. All very interesting, but unfortunately the facts change not one anti- semite’s view.
This is the problem, Anti semitism is alive and well and thriving all over the world , the word Holocaust is now a hackneyed loose term for any deaths caused by Israel. It is ironic how the Holocaust is denied by radicals but invoked as fact when applying it to palestinians deaths at the hands of the IDF.
One can only hope that the younger generation of jews remains as informed as their parents.
We can be thankful that leaders in some of the worlds great democracies
see the truth despite the demonstrations.

]]> By: Zvi Menachem http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90966 Zvi Menachem Thu, 08 May 2008 16:11:40 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-90966 Thank you Danny. What I was interested in was a book resulting from a sociological study of Jewish immigrants who came from Arab lands. Perhaps one which quantified the value of property they were forced to abandon. . Aside from the human suffering, this subject is certainly going to come up someday when any settlement is made with a mutual acknowledgement that there will be no right of return for either Jews or Arabs. Thank you Danny. What I was interested in was a book resulting from a sociological study of Jewish immigrants who came from Arab lands. Perhaps one which quantified the value of property they were forced to abandon.
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Aside from the human suffering, this subject is certainly going to come up someday when any settlement is made with a mutual acknowledgement that there will be no right of return for either Jews or Arabs.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90909 Danny the Admin Thu, 08 May 2008 07:18:23 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-90909 There is contradictory evidence on the subject. The problems ranged from real (Syria) to very temporary (Iraq) to largely induced by Israel (Egypt) to absent (Yemen). At any rate, the Jews left all their real estate behind, and that vastly exceeds in value anything left by the fleeing Arab peasants. Rabbi Kahane argued that Arab refugees should receive compensation from the abandoned Jewish property value. There is contradictory evidence on the subject. The problems ranged from real (Syria) to very temporary (Iraq) to largely induced by Israel (Egypt) to absent (Yemen). At any rate, the Jews left all their real estate behind, and that vastly exceeds in value anything left by the fleeing Arab peasants. Rabbi Kahane argued that Arab refugees should receive compensation from the abandoned Jewish property value.

]]> By: Zvi Menachem http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90875 Zvi Menachem Thu, 08 May 2008 00:30:22 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-90875 Fellow bloggers: Forgive this “slightly off the subject” note, but I thought at least one among you would be able answer a question that impacts upon the subject of rights of return. The writer, Bennie Morris, who has, over the years, flip-flopped on the question of whether the Palestinians left Israel in 1947, were instructed to do so by their leaders, or were thrown out by the Israelis. Morris has just written a new book. Does anyone know of any book(s) that document the circumstance of Jews who left the Arab lands to settle in Israel? The edicts and economic forfeitures that surrounded their flight to Israel. Many thanks Fellow bloggers:

Forgive this “slightly off the subject” note, but I thought at least one among you would be able answer a question that impacts upon the subject of rights of return.

The writer, Bennie Morris, who has, over the years, flip-flopped on the question of whether the Palestinians left Israel in 1947, were instructed to do so by their leaders, or were thrown out by the Israelis. Morris has just written a new book.

Does anyone know of any book(s) that document the circumstance of Jews who left the Arab lands to settle in Israel? The edicts and economic forfeitures that surrounded their flight to Israel.

Many thanks

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90838 Danny the Admin Wed, 07 May 2008 18:09:51 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-90838 To Joseph: You're right that the US and Russia were under no moral obligation to help Jews. This article doesn't condemn them for doing nothing, but warns the Jews that nothing should be expected of foreigners. Indeed, the argument is made that they seek to harm Jews. As for what state America and Russia gave us, please see the attached map. But, again, you're right that Jews should act ourselves rather than complain about Bush, Rice, and whoever else. To Joseph: You’re right that the US and Russia were under no moral obligation to help Jews. This article doesn’t condemn them for doing nothing, but warns the Jews that nothing should be expected of foreigners. Indeed, the argument is made that they seek to harm Jews.
As for what state America and Russia gave us, please see the attached map.
But, again, you’re right that Jews should act ourselves rather than complain about Bush, Rice, and whoever else.

]]> By: Joseph http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90827 Joseph Wed, 07 May 2008 15:34:01 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-90827 My father taught me that if you help your friend, he will hate and resent you. === Obadiah lists here all sorts of bad things the Brits and Soviets and Americans did and all sorts of good things they could have done but did not. === You think we were too slow to move against Hitler? Who says we had to move at all, EVER? Franklin Roosevelt, a very white Christian, committed TREASON by knowingly allowing the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor JUST TO GET US IN THE DAMNED WAR! === The Soviets and Americans and Brits defeated Hitler and GAVE the Jews a country. The Jews had almost 2000 years to take back their homeland, but despite their vaunted intelligence, they never found a way. It took blood. Mostly Russian and American blood. === You write revisionist history. Jews created Christianity, then hate the Christians. === Obadiah talks a good game, but everyone knows how good the Jews are at talking. Much rarer to see them act. Go ahead and argue, while YOUR politicians give away your land. Blame it on Bush -- everybody else does. Or blame it on the Tsar. What's the difference. === You now celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Nation the "Christian world" GAVE you, with a f-----g MOSQUE sitting on top of your Temple. I will give a crap about Israel again when that situation is remedied (by Jews). === "Ein Volk hilft sich selbst." === This is my last post here. I have nothing else to say to you. My father taught me that if you help your friend, he will hate and resent you.
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Obadiah lists here all sorts of bad things the Brits and Soviets and Americans did and all sorts of good things they could have done but did not.
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You think we were too slow to move against Hitler? Who says we had to move at all, EVER? Franklin Roosevelt, a very white Christian, committed TREASON by knowingly allowing the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor JUST TO GET US IN THE DAMNED WAR!
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The Soviets and Americans and Brits defeated Hitler and GAVE the Jews a country. The Jews had almost 2000 years to take back their homeland, but despite their vaunted intelligence, they never found a way. It took blood. Mostly Russian and American blood.
===
You write revisionist history. Jews created Christianity, then hate the Christians.
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Obadiah talks a good game, but everyone knows how good the Jews are at talking. Much rarer to see them act. Go ahead and argue, while YOUR politicians give away your land. Blame it on Bush — everybody else does. Or blame it on the Tsar. What’s the difference.
===
You now celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Nation the “Christian world” GAVE you, with a f—–g MOSQUE sitting on top of your Temple. I will give a crap about Israel again when that situation is remedied (by Jews).
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“Ein Volk hilft sich selbst.”
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This is my last post here. I have nothing else to say to you.

]]> By: Shiloh http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90821 Shiloh Wed, 07 May 2008 13:01:03 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/never-again-and-again-and-again.htm#comment-90821 Anti-semitism started in Egypt when the Hebrews took their gods and sacrificed them. With the advent of xtianity, they got even with us. So simple. Anti-semitism started in Egypt when the Hebrews took their gods and sacrificed them. With the advent of xtianity, they got even with us. So simple.

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