Comments on: Moses, the first terrorist (not Mohammed) http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: randompasserby http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-116732 randompasserby Sun, 29 May 2011 02:38:53 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-116732 "Apply political vocabulary of our own times to sacred literature is so absurd" you say it is absurd, but never elaborated. Why? I think this is valid. Is there no reason we shouldn't apply our modern understanding to times back then, rather than looking at it through rose-tinted glasses? (or whatever the expression is :P) Of course, everything in moderation, and this method is not fit in certain cases, but you provided no reason why it isn't applicable here. Buddha was a terrorist, Jesus was a terrorist? Why? What similarities are there besides being a revolutionary? Jesus's Disciples wanted to be terrorists but Jesus stopped them and wanted a more peaceful approach. That's not terrorism. Buddha, unlike Moses, never orchestrated the death and suffering of who knows how many people. The Exodus story itself is questionable, but that's not the point: we may never know the truth but we are talking about characters in a story that may be based on a bit of truth. (I do expect it to become a Big Fish story like David and Goliath, as ages go by the record of David's age becomes years younger and Goliath's height becomes greater by entire feet!) So this Moses character, he was a terrorist, yep. and the nerve to blame the Pharaoh for what Moses himself was doing... "I'm putting all the people of Egypt in agony, and this is your fault!" Pharaoh did the right thing. He was being threatened by a terrorist who put the ENTIRE PEOPLE OF EGYPT as HOSTAGE, but he did not give in. Because history tells us that if some country gives in to another influence once, they will be exploited and bullied for a loooooong time. Ramses made a wise decision. But too bad he couldn't take out the terrorist and eventually had to give in. Lincoln warred to free slaves, but his soldiers fought soldiers, and even then they felt like they were killing brothers. Civlians were untouched (they even sometimes had picnics just outside of battlefields), and we should all remember that plagues and disease killed far more people than direct warfare ever did. So Moses was really the biggest dick ever in the ancient times. He was the Hitler of Biblical times: self-righteous in his horrid deeds. In this story, I cannot help but see Moses's "god" as a demon whom Moses feared so much that in his indignance was in denial of his succumbing to it, and told himself he was following this powerful being of his own accord, and he was on the side of justice by thinking this entity as "the one and only god." That is so conceited. “Apply political vocabulary of our own times to sacred literature is so absurd” you say it is absurd, but never elaborated. Why? I think this is valid. Is there no reason we shouldn’t apply our modern understanding to times back then, rather than looking at it through rose-tinted glasses? (or whatever the expression is :P ) Of course, everything in moderation, and this method is not fit in certain cases, but you provided no reason why it isn’t applicable here.

Buddha was a terrorist, Jesus was a terrorist? Why? What similarities are there besides being a revolutionary? Jesus’s Disciples wanted to be terrorists but Jesus stopped them and wanted a more peaceful approach. That’s not terrorism. Buddha, unlike Moses, never orchestrated the death and suffering of who knows how many people.

The Exodus story itself is questionable, but that’s not the point: we may never know the truth but we are talking about characters in a story that may be based on a bit of truth. (I do expect it to become a Big Fish story like David and Goliath, as ages go by the record of David’s age becomes years younger and Goliath’s height becomes greater by entire feet!) So this Moses character, he was a terrorist, yep.

and the nerve to blame the Pharaoh for what Moses himself was doing… “I’m putting all the people of Egypt in agony, and this is your fault!” Pharaoh did the right thing. He was being threatened by a terrorist who put the ENTIRE PEOPLE OF EGYPT as HOSTAGE, but he did not give in. Because history tells us that if some country gives in to another influence once, they will be exploited and bullied for a loooooong time. Ramses made a wise decision. But too bad he couldn’t take out the terrorist and eventually had to give in.

Lincoln warred to free slaves, but his soldiers fought soldiers, and even then they felt like they were killing brothers. Civlians were untouched (they even sometimes had picnics just outside of battlefields), and we should all remember that plagues and disease killed far more people than direct warfare ever did. So Moses was really the biggest dick ever in the ancient times. He was the Hitler of Biblical times: self-righteous in his horrid deeds.

In this story, I cannot help but see Moses’s “god” as a demon whom Moses feared so much that in his indignance was in denial of his succumbing to it, and told himself he was following this powerful being of his own accord, and he was on the side of justice by thinking this entity as “the one and only god.” That is so conceited.

]]> By: I hate Shitlam http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-115802 I hate Shitlam Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:02:10 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-115802 The Quran has it's own similar interpretation of Moses. Weather or not who's profit was a terrorist, Muslims are the terrorists of today. Israel isn't the one oppressing, the Savage Palestinians are the oppressors of themselves as well as everyone else. Israel is the most free and least oppressive Nation in the Middle East. The Quran has it’s own similar interpretation of Moses.

Weather or not who’s profit was a terrorist, Muslims are the terrorists of today. Israel isn’t the one oppressing, the Savage Palestinians are the oppressors of themselves as well as everyone else. Israel is the most free and least oppressive Nation in the Middle East.

]]> By: Euronyme http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85622 Euronyme Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:46:32 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-85622 U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) defined terrorism as: “The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.” So... Moses a terrorist? Yepp. Take consolation in that its only fictional though. U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) defined terrorism as: “The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.”

So… Moses a terrorist? Yepp. Take consolation in that its only fictional though.

]]> By: nazir Ahmad Bhat http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-59020 nazir Ahmad Bhat Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:56:15 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-59020 you are more right that no religion can ever teach terrorisim.muslims following the exact message of islam can never adopt any kind of voilence/terrorisim.even; war principles as between judiasim and islam; one can appreciate how humane are war principles strictly in islamic regime without commenting what it apperas in judiasim.muslims whereever;fighting for political rights if devaite from islamic principles can well be judged in the context of islam.morever, islam prohibit strictly to address any prophet of any abrahim religion with casual or underate address.thanks you are more right that no religion can ever teach terrorisim.muslims following the exact message of islam can never adopt any kind of voilence/terrorisim.even; war principles as between judiasim and islam; one can appreciate how humane are war principles strictly in islamic regime without commenting what it apperas in judiasim.muslims whereever;fighting for political rights if devaite from islamic principles can well be judged in the context of islam.morever, islam prohibit strictly to address any prophet of any abrahim religion with casual or underate address.thanks

]]> By: elie http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-46291 elie Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:45:45 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-46291 religion is the cause of politics, but blaming the significant people in a religion as terrosists then there is no reason to follow a evil religion. Every religion has a sense to make peac e with one another. Having that ideology of terroism can caus violence and conlfict. By these comment im reading it seems there is confusion to what relgion means. Islam, Buddhism, Judiams and Christianity are all religion who were formed mainly for the 'sake of peace' not for war and for terrosirsm. God doesnt want his children to kill eachother. There is only one God or supreme creator that want everyone to 'love thy neighbour as thyself'. Yes there are terosist attacks occuring, but these people are the muslims groups who misinterpret the Quran and what its message. My opinion, terrorism and having that ideology as evryone can be a terrosist can cause much conflict and violence.!! religion is the cause of politics, but blaming the significant people in a religion as terrosists then there is no reason to follow a evil religion. Every religion has a sense to make peac e with one another. Having that ideology of terroism can caus violence and conlfict. By these comment im reading it seems there is confusion to what relgion means. Islam, Buddhism, Judiams and Christianity are all religion who were formed mainly for the ’sake of peace’ not for war and for terrosirsm. God doesnt want his children to kill eachother. There is only one God or supreme creator that want everyone to ‘love thy neighbour as thyself’. Yes there are terosist attacks occuring, but these people are the muslims groups who misinterpret the Quran and what its message. My opinion, terrorism and having that ideology as evryone can be a terrosist can cause much conflict and violence.!!

]]> By: John Black http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19002 John Black Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:02:39 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-19002 Moses a terrorist????????????????? WHO do you think commanded him to deliver his people by sending plagues? Popeye and Olive oil? Moses a terrorist?????????????????
WHO do you think commanded him to deliver his people by sending plagues? Popeye and Olive oil?

]]> By: Talat Pasha http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18051 Talat Pasha Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:26:59 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-18051 Maria, you [MODERATED]! No text is sacred, and Jesus was a terrorist. What's wrong with terrorrizing the exploiters? OH, by the way: Religion iS politics, no need to mix them and no possibility to seperate them..... FYI ;) Maria, you [MODERATED]! No text is sacred, and Jesus was a terrorist. What’s wrong with terrorrizing the exploiters?
OH, by the way: Religion iS politics, no need to mix them and no possibility to seperate them…..
FYI ;)

]]> By: maria http://samsonblinded.org/blog/moses-the-terrorist.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6 maria Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:56:34 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=19#comment-6 I suppose Jews (or Arabs, or Swedes, or whoever) accuse terrorists of terrorism. Applying the political vocabulary of our own times to sacred literature is so absurd that it becomes comical. Just following that logic....Jesus was a terrorist, Muhammad was a terrorist, Buddha was a terrorist...not to speak of Satan. Mixing religion and politics is a bad, baaaaad idea. I suppose Jews (or Arabs, or Swedes, or whoever) accuse terrorists of terrorism. Applying the political vocabulary of our own times to sacred literature is so absurd that it becomes comical. Just following that logic….Jesus was a terrorist, Muhammad was a terrorist, Buddha was a terrorist…not to speak of Satan. Mixing religion and politics is a bad, baaaaad idea.

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