Comments on: Modern anti-Semitism http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: AbuShy http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111411 AbuShy Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:30:24 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-111411 How did Elleene come in almost 2 years before the current thread??? Well, to answer her(?), Abraham's seed would be known (or would last eternally) through the Yitzak line. Not the conqubines or Ketura and especially not through the slave girl from Egypt. Ishmael would be blessed with 12 tribes, as it were, and with the ability to, (how shall I say it?) NOT get along with each other or with anyone else on planet earth, for that matter. For all of earth's history, and even after a day of rest (1000 years) in which the Messiah reigns and rules from His throne on Mount Zion. See Revelation 20:7-10 Proof that Isaac ("In Isaac shall your seed be called") is the rightful heir of Abraham is found in Ishmael's history (which was written down ahead of time) and which is being lived out in spades for everyone to see. How did Elleene come in almost 2 years before the current thread???

Well, to answer her(?), Abraham’s seed would be known (or would last eternally) through the Yitzak line. Not the conqubines or Ketura and especially not through the slave girl from Egypt.

Ishmael would be blessed with 12 tribes, as it were, and with the ability to, (how shall I say it?) NOT get along with each other or with anyone else on planet earth, for that matter. For all of earth’s history, and even after a day of rest (1000 years) in which the Messiah reigns and rules from His throne on Mount Zion. See Revelation 20:7-10

Proof that Isaac (“In Isaac shall your seed be called”) is the rightful heir of Abraham is found in Ishmael’s history (which was written down ahead of time) and which is being lived out in spades for everyone to see.

]]> By: Elleene http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-28752 Elleene Mon, 28 May 2007 00:31:41 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-28752 Ishmael was blessed before Isaac. The right of the firstborn was his. (according to OT) Why should Arabs then be considered as "bastards" by <a href="http://samsonblinded.org/titles/Judea.htm" rel="nofollow">Jews and Christians</a>? (if that is in fact the implication you are making). Would not the tradition of those people have concluded Ishmael as legitimate? Abraham had many wives. What about the firstborn of Kenturah? Funny how that "family" of Abraham vanishes from both Jewish and Christian thought. Any explanation? Ishmael was blessed before Isaac. The right of the firstborn was his. (according to OT) Why should Arabs then be considered as “bastards” by Jews and Christians? (if that is in fact the implication you are making).

Would not the tradition of those people have concluded Ishmael as legitimate? Abraham had many wives. What about the firstborn of Kenturah? Funny how that “family” of Abraham vanishes from both Jewish and Christian thought. Any explanation?

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19601 Alain Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:11:08 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19601 From what I know of Islam, Muslims claim that it was Ishmael instead of Isaac who was almost sacrificed and that Abraham was a Muslim. They distorted the Torah while claiming that it was the Jews who distorted it. This closes the door for any chance of getting them to understand the truth. When one adds the quiet recent Muslim invention of Jerusalem being a Muslim holy site etc., matters only get worse. From what I know of Islam, Muslims claim that it was Ishmael instead of Isaac who was almost sacrificed and that Abraham was a Muslim. They distorted the Torah while claiming that it was the Jews who distorted it. This closes the door for any chance of getting them to understand the truth. When one adds the quiet recent Muslim invention of Jerusalem being a Muslim holy site etc., matters only get worse.

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19587 chaim Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:25:10 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19587 LeBron: please danny's post number 10 Another question: How nowadays arabs figure being descendants from Ishmael? Any proof link??? LeBron: please danny’s post number 10
Another question: How nowadays arabs figure being descendants from Ishmael? Any proof link???

]]> By: LeBron http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19580 LeBron Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:54:00 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19580 firstborn but still illegitimate son... But what all this has to do with antisemitism? Majority of antisemites do not think twice about all these nuances that you discuss (Paul, Saul, Pharicee...), actually, they do not know anything about it. It's just a general idea of Jewish guilt... for something firstborn but still illegitimate son… But what all this has to do with antisemitism? Majority of antisemites do not think twice about all these nuances that you discuss (Paul, Saul, Pharicee…), actually, they do not know anything about it. It’s just a general idea of Jewish guilt… for something

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19571 Danny the Admin Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:29:38 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19571 Arabs see that differently, and consider themselves descendants of the firstborn. Arabs see that differently, and consider themselves descendants of the firstborn.

]]> By: James Biga http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19530 James Biga Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:18:25 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19530 One of my ideas in regards to the Arabs has been their disdain for the fact that they are descendant from a Bastard. Islam fit right in with their desire to be something they weren't and it allowed them to believe that they are more important than others. I agree that the Jews are constant reminder of G-d. This eats at quite a few people. One of my ideas in regards to the Arabs has been their disdain for the fact that they are descendant from a Bastard. Islam fit right in with their desire to be something they weren’t and it allowed them to believe that they are more important than others. I agree that the Jews are constant reminder of G-d. This eats at quite a few people.

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19508 Alain Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:16:25 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19508 May I suggest that the true root of anti-Semitism is nothing other than rebellion against G-d and His Commandments. It matters little if not every Jew acts in a holy fashion, for his very continued existence is a physical witness to the existence of the G-d of Israel and His Commandments for all mankind. I also think it is at times permitted by HaShem to ensure the continued existence of the Jewish people as a distinct people as opposed to them disappearing through assimilation. History should have taught us that trying to become like all the Gentiles, as in Germany prior to the Nazis, does not work. Yet we are plagued with so-called leaders in Israel trying to gain favour with the world. This is a major failure of the non religious Left. We need to accept who we are, why we exist and get on with it without worrying about what will the "others" think. May I suggest that the true root of anti-Semitism is nothing other than rebellion against G-d and His Commandments. It matters little if not every Jew acts in a holy fashion, for his very continued existence is a physical witness to the existence of the G-d of Israel and His Commandments for all mankind. I also think it is at times permitted by HaShem to ensure the continued existence of the Jewish people as a distinct people as opposed to them disappearing through assimilation.

History should have taught us that trying to become like all the Gentiles, as in Germany prior to the Nazis, does not work. Yet we are plagued with so-called leaders in Israel trying to gain favour with the world. This is a major failure of the non religious Left. We need to accept who we are, why we exist and get on with it without worrying about what will the “others” think.

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19487 chaim Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:37:50 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19487 Danny, I meant a lot of historians call Josephus a Pharisee. Not Himself, since he cared a lot to name himself Saducee. Do you remember from where you did read The high priest was a Pharisee at that time? Sounds interesting to me... Anyway, as you said, Josephus cites that for 200 years before the temple's fall, Urim and Tumim weren't shining no more. SO that is at least a good point of the High Priest family corruption back then. But I cannot imagine a pharisee working for them, since they developed their own network of sinagogues.. Danny, I meant a lot of historians call Josephus a Pharisee. Not Himself, since he cared a lot to name himself Saducee. Do you remember from where you did read The high priest was a Pharisee at that time? Sounds interesting to me… Anyway, as you said, Josephus cites that for 200 years before the temple’s fall, Urim and Tumim weren’t shining no more. SO that is at least a good point of the High Priest family corruption back then. But I cannot imagine a pharisee working for them, since they developed their own network of sinagogues..

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm/comment-page-1#comment-19483 Danny the Admin Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:10:52 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/modern-anti-semitism.htm#comment-19483 James, I perfectly understand your point. Since we agreed with you that a degree of generalization is unavoidable in any discourse, the discussion switched to another interesting point you raised. James, I perfectly understand your point. Since we agreed with you that a degree of generalization is unavoidable in any discourse, the discussion switched to another interesting point you raised.

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