Comments on: Israel and America http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109409 Danny the Admin Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:53:58 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-109409 Then you would be hard pressed to find any "beacon" in human history because just every nation killed the natives. And if we accept the biblical definition of "beacon to nations," doesn't it include several commandments to considerable killing of natives? Then you would be hard pressed to find any “beacon” in human history because just every nation killed the natives.
And if we accept the biblical definition of “beacon to nations,” doesn’t it include several commandments to considerable killing of natives?

]]> By: Mark http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109404 Mark Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:04:03 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-109404 it wasn't just Georgia...the Cherokee were in Tennessee, North and South Carolina and part of Georgia....the Trail of Tears was not benevolence...it was suffering and death...forced relocation...and it was repeated on other tribes.... additionally, Wounded Knee and countless other slaughters were not benevolence... I have to take exception to many of the points of this page. Do "beacons of light" systematically kill the natives? I think not. it wasn’t just Georgia…the Cherokee were in Tennessee, North and South Carolina and part of Georgia….the Trail of Tears was not benevolence…it was suffering and death…forced relocation…and it was repeated on other tribes….

additionally, Wounded Knee and countless other slaughters were not benevolence…

I have to take exception to many of the points of this page. Do “beacons of light” systematically kill the natives? I think not.

]]> By: Brandon http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-103052 Brandon Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:27:56 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-103052 There are 6 Million Jews who aren't around to disagree, so I'll do it for them. There are 6 Million Jews who aren’t around to disagree, so I’ll do it for them.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102918 Danny the Admin Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:30:08 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102918 Empirically, Israel is a more dangerous place to Jews than any other country Empirically, Israel is a more dangerous place to Jews than any other country

]]> By: Brandon http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102844 Brandon Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:57:16 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102844 First off this is land that everybody agrees was taken from the Jewish people 2,000 years ago. We did not sell it or walk away from it. Apparently there are people that believe that there is some statute of limitations on our property being returned. I say property should be returned to the rightful owner when it is necessary for survival. Secondly, if these people are willing to live in peace with us I say they are welcome with open arms. As of July 2008 they wish to destroy us. "Ethnic cleansing" is trucking people away because of their race or religion, we don't have a problem with their race or religion, we have a problem with them try to kill us. Third, if you don't care about your own life that's up to you, but you have no right to decide the fate of the Jewish families that are in danger. We have no choice but to fight. Fourth and finally: Jews are not the only ones in conflict with the Muslims. Not by a long shot. It is a world-wide 'phenomenon'. First off this is land that everybody agrees was taken from the Jewish people 2,000 years ago. We did not sell it or walk away from it. Apparently there are people that believe that there is some statute of limitations on our property being returned. I say property should be returned to the rightful owner when it is necessary for survival. Secondly, if these people are willing to live in peace with us I say they are welcome with open arms. As of July 2008 they wish to destroy us. “Ethnic cleansing” is trucking people away because of their race or religion, we don’t have a problem with their race or religion, we have a problem with them try to kill us. Third, if you don’t care about your own life that’s up to you, but you have no right to decide the fate of the Jewish families that are in danger. We have no choice but to fight. Fourth and finally: Jews are not the only ones in conflict with the Muslims. Not by a long shot. It is a world-wide ‘phenomenon’.

]]> By: Brandon http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102841 Brandon Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:43:55 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102841 Excuse me, Jews have no other place to be truly safe than Israel. Opposing Jews having a safe place to live is anti-Semitic. Therefore, opposing Israel's defense is most certainly anti-Semitic. To say "the" aggressors implies there is only one "aggressor". I bet the parents of those teenagers killed at the University recently, or even more disgusting, at the Dolphinarium kiddie club in 2001 would take issue with the assertion that there is only one "aggressor". And as for who G-d is rooting for I doubt G-d wou;d agree that people who blow up buses, weddings, and pizza parlors full of Jewish families either "humble" or "weak". Excuse me, Jews have no other place to be truly safe than Israel. Opposing Jews having a safe place to live is anti-Semitic. Therefore, opposing Israel’s defense is most certainly anti-Semitic.

To say “the” aggressors implies there is only one “aggressor”. I bet the parents of those teenagers killed at the University recently, or even more disgusting, at the Dolphinarium kiddie club in 2001 would take issue with the assertion that there is only one “aggressor”.

And as for who G-d is rooting for I doubt G-d wou;d agree that people who blow up buses, weddings, and pizza parlors full of Jewish families either “humble” or “weak”.

]]> By: lee http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102838 lee Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:10:55 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102838 "Besides, there is a common sense of not living alongside your sworn enemies." What are people suppose to do with their sworn enemies if not try to seek reconciliation? Are you suppose to kill your sworn enemies? deport them? cleanse them from your homeland? Please Note: Nazis and Jews were sworn enemies. So if you're implying that violence against one's enemy is justified, then you're basically saying that the Nazis, who views Jews as their enemy, are justified in using violence against the Jews. Also, as for you opinion that racial cleansing is justifiable as long as it is a religious mandate... I'm fairly sure there is another guy who believe in pretty much same thing... His name is Muhammad... “Besides, there is a common sense of not living alongside your sworn enemies.”

What are people suppose to do with their sworn enemies if not try to seek reconciliation? Are you suppose to kill your sworn enemies? deport them? cleanse them from your homeland? Please Note: Nazis and Jews were sworn enemies. So if you’re implying that violence against one’s enemy is justified, then you’re basically saying that the Nazis, who views Jews as their enemy, are justified in using violence against the Jews.

Also, as for you opinion that racial cleansing is justifiable as long as it is a religious mandate… I’m fairly sure there is another guy who believe in pretty much same thing… His name is Muhammad…

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102789 Danny the Admin Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:39:00 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102789 Maybe you should change your definition of morality? Really, take a copy of Rabbi Kahane's The Jewish Idea. Maybe you should change your definition of morality? Really, take a copy of Rabbi Kahane’s The Jewish Idea.

]]> By: Brandon http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102778 Brandon Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:02:49 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102778 Jewish settlements, yes, I know. I've read newspaper articles calling them "illegal outposts", I've never heard a U.S. official use that term. I know we have STATED that our policy is a "two-state solution", but that is a far cry from sanctioning Israel. Anyway, Israel's military aid is used to buy U.S. weapons, it only hurts us if we can't justify production. Also, being from D.C. I can say with a fair amount of certainty not too many people in Washington believe a solution is coming anytime soon. They would be withholding aid for a long time. I think you are reading too much into the policy statements, but if you have some evidence that we are withholding aid I would be interested as I am the leader of a Zionist organization and we might want to take some action on it. Jewish settlements, yes, I know. I’ve read newspaper articles calling them “illegal outposts”, I’ve never heard a U.S. official use that term. I know we have STATED that our policy is a “two-state solution”, but that is a far cry from sanctioning Israel.

Anyway, Israel’s military aid is used to buy U.S. weapons, it only hurts us if we can’t justify production.

Also, being from D.C. I can say with a fair amount of certainty not too many people in Washington believe a solution is coming anytime soon. They would be withholding aid for a long time.

I think you are reading too much into the policy statements, but if you have some evidence that we are withholding aid I would be interested as I am the leader of a Zionist organization and we might want to take some action on it.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm/comment-page-1#comment-102746 Danny the Admin Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:36:27 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/israel-and-america.htm#comment-102746 Whatever Torah calls moral, is moral by definition. God told us to cleanse the land he gives us from natives. Besides, there is a common sense of not living alongside your sworn enemies. Whatever Torah calls moral, is moral by definition. God told us to cleanse the land he gives us from natives. Besides, there is a common sense of not living alongside your sworn enemies.

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