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		<title>By: Erick S</title>
		<link>http://samsonblinded.org/blog/iraqs-standard-of-safety.htm/comment-page-1#comment-72283</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People lie Joseph. Mohammed wanted 4 witnesses because he knew Arabs lie more than usual people (Oh no he didn&#039;t :) ).
2 Non-Arabs would suffice for me, though I got a LOT of information here already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People lie Joseph. Mohammed wanted 4 witnesses because he knew Arabs lie more than usual people (Oh no he didn&#8217;t <img src='http://samsonblinded.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).<br />
2 Non-Arabs would suffice for me, though I got a LOT of information here already.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick -- The Koran says:  Why did they not produce four witnesses?  If they could not produce any witnesses, then they were surely lying in the sight of Allah. (Light 24:12,13).  This humble poster would merely ask for a single scholarly citation  :) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick &#8212; The Koran says:  Why did they not produce four witnesses?  If they could not produce any witnesses, then they were surely lying in the sight of Allah. (Light 24:12,13).  This humble poster would merely ask for a single scholarly citation  <img src='http://samsonblinded.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray -- And if every Muslim on the planet decides to become a Wahabist suicide bomber, that no more reflects on what is actually said in the Koran than if every Jew is convinced that somewhere in the Torah it says you can&#039;t eat a cheeseburger.  President Bush is a wiener, but that is a totally different subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8212; And if every Muslim on the planet decides to become a Wahabist suicide bomber, that no more reflects on what is actually said in the Koran than if every Jew is convinced that somewhere in the Torah it says you can&#8217;t eat a cheeseburger.  President Bush is a wiener, but that is a totally different subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://samsonblinded.org/blog/iraqs-standard-of-safety.htm/comment-page-1#comment-72232</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray -- You are so much more interesting when you get all worked-up!  Some of the many evil deeds you attribute to Muhammed may have happened.  He did have multiple wives, including one of his son&#039;s, which I believe does violate Torah, but then that wouldn&#039;t bother you, would it?  I do not believe polygamy, in and of itself, disqualifies one as a &quot;decent guy&quot;.  As for the pure enjoyment of torturing people to death, I have my personal doubts about that.  But, in any case, all these allegations are from tradition, not the Koran.  As you know, I have very limited use for the Talmud, or Papal Bulls, or the insights of Jerry Falwell, or even Saul of Tarsus.  Read the Torah for the Law, and the words of Jesus to know what he meant, and the Koran to know what it says.  You are correct that most of the Koran is a retelling of the Jewish and Christian Bible, so I would not classify it as the vomitous spewings of a psychopath (unless you include Moses in that description).  Muhammed considered himself the Prophet to the Arab cousins of the Jews, that the Jews had failed to evangelize and had allowed to wallow in idolatry.  He did not accept the Trinitarian interpretation of the Godhead that won the day at Nicea, or I believe he would have been a Christian.  The Koran specifically names observant Jews and Christians as believers, not &quot;infidels&quot; as the radicals like to say.  As for how the modern radicals do NOT follow the Koran, and also how it is very enlightened as to crime and punishment in the context of its time and place, consider the following: We are agreed that the punishment for Adultry is Death according to Torah (Lev. 20:10), are we not?  The penalty for the adulter and adulteress in the &quot;bloodthirsty&quot; Koran is 100 lashes (Light 24:1).  As to the inequality of women&#039;s testimony, if a man accuses his wife, with no witnesses, he must swear 4 times, calling down God&#039;s curse on himself, if his charge be untrue; but if the wife also swears 4 times that it is untrue, there shall be no punishment (Light 24:6-8).  One who reads the Koran shall find the recurrent mantra, especially when some punishment has been precribed: As you would ask God&#039;s forgiveness, it is best that you forgive.  Thus is the tenor of the Koran as Muhammed recited it.  The nut-cases do not follow this spirit, obviously.  And a very large percentage of observant Muslims are, indeed, nut-cases -- Wahabists and the Iranian Ayatollah&#039;s followers in particular.  And while my opinion of commentaries is what it is, I offer this bit for what it is worth:  &quot;and if there is for him (the accused) a way out, then set him free; for the Imam to err in pardoning is better than to err in punishment.&quot; (In accordance with the marfu tradition of &#039;A&#039;isha, quoted on pg 65 of Crime and Punishment Under Islamic Law, a translation by G.M. Baroody of Manar al-Sabil by Al-Dalil, Cairo 1961).  No, the nut-cases do not follow this attitude.  Muhammed was a human, and that means imperfect.  Nonetheless, he took on the task of converting the most barbaric of pagan idolators to monotheism and some semblance of civilization.  As to Hitler, from the human standpoint, he had no redeeming features, except perhaps approving some really cool looking uniforms for his most evil followers.  And there were apparently some pretty impressive buildings and sports arenas that were all destroyed.  And, of course, he was a vegetarian.  Not quite enough to classify him as a &quot;decent guy&quot;, in my book, though.  And I have tried to read through Mein Kampf -- it really is boring, even in an historical context.  Never got through it, and I don&#039;t think I missed much.  The Nazi true believers were not misinterpreting Hitler at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8212; You are so much more interesting when you get all worked-up!  Some of the many evil deeds you attribute to Muhammed may have happened.  He did have multiple wives, including one of his son&#8217;s, which I believe does violate Torah, but then that wouldn&#8217;t bother you, would it?  I do not believe polygamy, in and of itself, disqualifies one as a &#8220;decent guy&#8221;.  As for the pure enjoyment of torturing people to death, I have my personal doubts about that.  But, in any case, all these allegations are from tradition, not the Koran.  As you know, I have very limited use for the Talmud, or Papal Bulls, or the insights of Jerry Falwell, or even Saul of Tarsus.  Read the Torah for the Law, and the words of Jesus to know what he meant, and the Koran to know what it says.  You are correct that most of the Koran is a retelling of the Jewish and Christian Bible, so I would not classify it as the vomitous spewings of a psychopath (unless you include Moses in that description).  Muhammed considered himself the Prophet to the Arab cousins of the Jews, that the Jews had failed to evangelize and had allowed to wallow in idolatry.  He did not accept the Trinitarian interpretation of the Godhead that won the day at Nicea, or I believe he would have been a Christian.  The Koran specifically names observant Jews and Christians as believers, not &#8220;infidels&#8221; as the radicals like to say.  As for how the modern radicals do NOT follow the Koran, and also how it is very enlightened as to crime and punishment in the context of its time and place, consider the following: We are agreed that the punishment for Adultry is Death according to Torah (Lev. 20:10), are we not?  The penalty for the adulter and adulteress in the &#8220;bloodthirsty&#8221; Koran is 100 lashes (Light 24:1).  As to the inequality of women&#8217;s testimony, if a man accuses his wife, with no witnesses, he must swear 4 times, calling down God&#8217;s curse on himself, if his charge be untrue; but if the wife also swears 4 times that it is untrue, there shall be no punishment (Light 24:6-8).  One who reads the Koran shall find the recurrent mantra, especially when some punishment has been precribed: As you would ask God&#8217;s forgiveness, it is best that you forgive.  Thus is the tenor of the Koran as Muhammed recited it.  The nut-cases do not follow this spirit, obviously.  And a very large percentage of observant Muslims are, indeed, nut-cases &#8212; Wahabists and the Iranian Ayatollah&#8217;s followers in particular.  And while my opinion of commentaries is what it is, I offer this bit for what it is worth:  &#8220;and if there is for him (the accused) a way out, then set him free; for the Imam to err in pardoning is better than to err in punishment.&#8221; (In accordance with the marfu tradition of &#8216;A&#8217;isha, quoted on pg 65 of Crime and Punishment Under Islamic Law, a translation by G.M. Baroody of Manar al-Sabil by Al-Dalil, Cairo 1961).  No, the nut-cases do not follow this attitude.  Muhammed was a human, and that means imperfect.  Nonetheless, he took on the task of converting the most barbaric of pagan idolators to monotheism and some semblance of civilization.  As to Hitler, from the human standpoint, he had no redeeming features, except perhaps approving some really cool looking uniforms for his most evil followers.  And there were apparently some pretty impressive buildings and sports arenas that were all destroyed.  And, of course, he was a vegetarian.  Not quite enough to classify him as a &#8220;decent guy&#8221;, in my book, though.  And I have tried to read through Mein Kampf &#8212; it really is boring, even in an historical context.  Never got through it, and I don&#8217;t think I missed much.  The Nazi true believers were not misinterpreting Hitler at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Karole du Pont</title>
		<link>http://samsonblinded.org/blog/iraqs-standard-of-safety.htm/comment-page-1#comment-72218</link>
		<dc:creator>Karole du Pont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some constitutional processess are terribly difficult to vulgarize scientifically in one line.  Especially the one that would express the challenge to Man&#039;s behaviour in adapting sucessfully his animal nature to the highest level of spiritual conduct.  Established religions all share this challenge. Not sure this is the best one scientifically but I would suggest the evolution of Islam Christianity and Judaism could be compared to the life of the caterpillar becoming a butterfly.  A catarpillar is fully functional, but when religions go away from God&#039;s commandments they are not in the cocoon in preparation to be the butterfly but to suffocate in the cocoon. 
Spiritualities have been grounded ethnically in matter thus nations at their caterpillar phase but in order to be butterflies and play their role of conscience objectors they must be able to transpose their constitutional values in other nations without engangering each other&#039;s identities. Canadian federalism is a good transposition of this challenge. Understand the continuous constitutional identity of Natives, French Canadians and English Canadians in Canada despite the physical constitutional adaptation from a physical French Canadian into a French speaking Canadian constitutionally is to understand the full peace challenge of the main 3 monotheistic spiritualities.  Muslims will discover that Canada is Judaic, Christian and Islamic for Islam stresses unity of the ULama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some constitutional processess are terribly difficult to vulgarize scientifically in one line.  Especially the one that would express the challenge to Man&#8217;s behaviour in adapting sucessfully his animal nature to the highest level of spiritual conduct.  Established religions all share this challenge. Not sure this is the best one scientifically but I would suggest the evolution of Islam Christianity and Judaism could be compared to the life of the caterpillar becoming a butterfly.  A catarpillar is fully functional, but when religions go away from God&#8217;s commandments they are not in the cocoon in preparation to be the butterfly but to suffocate in the cocoon.<br />
Spiritualities have been grounded ethnically in matter thus nations at their caterpillar phase but in order to be butterflies and play their role of conscience objectors they must be able to transpose their constitutional values in other nations without engangering each other&#8217;s identities. Canadian federalism is a good transposition of this challenge. Understand the continuous constitutional identity of Natives, French Canadians and English Canadians in Canada despite the physical constitutional adaptation from a physical French Canadian into a French speaking Canadian constitutionally is to understand the full peace challenge of the main 3 monotheistic spiritualities.  Muslims will discover that Canada is Judaic, Christian and Islamic for Islam stresses unity of the ULama.</p>
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		<title>By: Karole du Pont</title>
		<link>http://samsonblinded.org/blog/iraqs-standard-of-safety.htm/comment-page-1#comment-72217</link>
		<dc:creator>Karole du Pont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British in Canada did use biological warfare on the Natives in Ontario in order to defeat them  . Worse in terms of history , British deported the Acadians to the US and other areas shortly before they conquered Quebec City in 1759 but does this offset the justice of the afterwards British constitutional decisions in Canada  where in Canada up till now Natives can uphold constitutionally their status of First Nations in a way impossible... yet in other countries with Natives... and French Canadians benefitted from the Quebec Act of 1774 establishing their rights to Catholiscism and French civil Law.       
YOu try to understand Islam from a perversive message of all men are equal flowing from all men are brothers... it does not mean all religions to grow in their own identity are similar in their physical aspects .
If you study Natives who in no way could be defined as part of the European Christian institutions, on an historical timeline you will find they acted in the interest of everyone... yet they had this awful custom of scalping enemies...and strange treatment for defeated enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British in Canada did use biological warfare on the Natives in Ontario in order to defeat them  . Worse in terms of history , British deported the Acadians to the US and other areas shortly before they conquered Quebec City in 1759 but does this offset the justice of the afterwards British constitutional decisions in Canada  where in Canada up till now Natives can uphold constitutionally their status of First Nations in a way impossible&#8230; yet in other countries with Natives&#8230; and French Canadians benefitted from the Quebec Act of 1774 establishing their rights to Catholiscism and French civil Law.<br />
YOu try to understand Islam from a perversive message of all men are equal flowing from all men are brothers&#8230; it does not mean all religions to grow in their own identity are similar in their physical aspects .<br />
If you study Natives who in no way could be defined as part of the European Christian institutions, on an historical timeline you will find they acted in the interest of everyone&#8230; yet they had this awful custom of scalping enemies&#8230;and strange treatment for defeated enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,
You must be joking:
You read the Quran and you think that Muhammad was a decent guy????????
This immoral rapist who raped countless women, including the exquisitely beautiful 17 years Jewish Safiah, who’s husband he just tortured to death, and who’s father and brothers he killed a day before??
A monster who assassinated mothers with a baby at her breast (just because she wrote satirical poem about him)!
A sadist who often insisted on torturing people before killing them.
This blood thirsty liar and deceiver who made treaties with his opponents (in Mecca) with the intent to break them.
A deceiver who pretended that “God” gave him revelations allowing him to have sex with his own daughter in law!!!!
A pedophile engaging in sex with prepubescent girls who was still playing with her dolls? 

As for Koran, Mein Kampf is a “work of art”. Koran is unbelievably boring, constantly repeating itself. I think that people who talk about “the beauty of Koran” have never read it. There is no beauty in it. It is sick, vomitatious outpouring of a psychopath. 
Koran consists of parts that Muhammad stole from Torah (and flattened the stories so that they became one-dimensional), parts stolen from Gospels and bits from Zarathustra. Besides this there are his own “revelations” which consist of constantly repeated threats of what his God is going to do to you if you don’t follow Muhammad. 
The only beautiful part of Quran is the calligraphy. Indeed it is always written with very beautiful lettering. 
When it comes to the ability to express ideas clearly, Hitler is far superior to Muhammad. Also, morally Hitler is superior to Muhammad, while both were genocidal maniacs, Hitler, at least, was a gentleman towards women, while Muhammad raped them to the right and to the left.
I simply can’t comprehend how you can consider this pig in human body a “decent guy”!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,<br />
You must be joking:<br />
You read the Quran and you think that Muhammad was a decent guy????????<br />
This immoral rapist who raped countless women, including the exquisitely beautiful 17 years Jewish Safiah, who’s husband he just tortured to death, and who’s father and brothers he killed a day before??<br />
A monster who assassinated mothers with a baby at her breast (just because she wrote satirical poem about him)!<br />
A sadist who often insisted on torturing people before killing them.<br />
This blood thirsty liar and deceiver who made treaties with his opponents (in Mecca) with the intent to break them.<br />
A deceiver who pretended that “God” gave him revelations allowing him to have sex with his own daughter in law!!!!<br />
A pedophile engaging in sex with prepubescent girls who was still playing with her dolls? </p>
<p>As for Koran, Mein Kampf is a “work of art”. Koran is unbelievably boring, constantly repeating itself. I think that people who talk about “the beauty of Koran” have never read it. There is no beauty in it. It is sick, vomitatious outpouring of a psychopath.<br />
Koran consists of parts that Muhammad stole from Torah (and flattened the stories so that they became one-dimensional), parts stolen from Gospels and bits from Zarathustra. Besides this there are his own “revelations” which consist of constantly repeated threats of what his God is going to do to you if you don’t follow Muhammad.<br />
The only beautiful part of Quran is the calligraphy. Indeed it is always written with very beautiful lettering.<br />
When it comes to the ability to express ideas clearly, Hitler is far superior to Muhammad. Also, morally Hitler is superior to Muhammad, while both were genocidal maniacs, Hitler, at least, was a gentleman towards women, while Muhammad raped them to the right and to the left.<br />
I simply can’t comprehend how you can consider this pig in human body a “decent guy”!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Erick S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting information, Ray.
I wonder if anyone here can verify what you&#039;re writing about the Koran. As you know, it is  Jewish tradition to bring at least two witnesses :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting information, Ray.<br />
I wonder if anyone here can verify what you&#8217;re writing about the Koran. As you know, it is  Jewish tradition to bring at least two witnesses <img src='http://samsonblinded.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ray Bright</title>
		<link>http://samsonblinded.org/blog/iraqs-standard-of-safety.htm/comment-page-1#comment-72010</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

All Nazis were not nut cases. Some Nazis may had had a human side. Never the less, the Nazi ideology is a sickness. It would be a mistake (and this mistake indeed was made in 1930s) to try to support the moderate Nazis, or to sway the Nazis to be moderate. Islam, just like Nazism is a totalitarian, political ideology. It is indeed different from other religions in many ways. For one thing. The founder himself was a psychopath, a rapist, a child abuser, an obsessive liar, deceiver, manipulator. He used  his position as a &quot;Prophet&quot; to satisfy his  selfish desires. For example when he wanted to have sex with Zaynab (his daughter in law) he instantly received a revelation from Allah, that it was lawful for him to do so. This psychopath wrote the whole Koran. Koran has very few &quot;good verses&quot; and the so called &quot;good verses&quot;, or &quot;humane&quot;, or &quot;tolerant&quot; verses are always taken out of context.  For example the famous verse that the Muhammadans are always bragging about which says that &quot;that killing one person is like killing whole humanity&quot; (which incidentally is borrowed from Talmud)is followed by next verse which says that those who oppose Muhammad, or Islam (cause disturbance in the land) must be crucified, their hands and feet cut off on the opposite side, etc. So even the &quot;good&quot; verses are a lie and manipulation tauted specifically for to deceive the naive Western audiences. This is their public face. The real message in Koran is one and simple: &quot;The whole world has to be conquered for Allah. Any and all means are good if they bring Islam closer to this goal.&quot; Specifically jihad, terrorism, lying and deception are noble methods for spreading the domain of Allah.
So those who claim that Islam is OK, and it is like other religions, and that the problem is caused by a minority of nuts, are perpetuating a politically correct lie. Unfortunately our president belong to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>All Nazis were not nut cases. Some Nazis may had had a human side. Never the less, the Nazi ideology is a sickness. It would be a mistake (and this mistake indeed was made in 1930s) to try to support the moderate Nazis, or to sway the Nazis to be moderate. Islam, just like Nazism is a totalitarian, political ideology. It is indeed different from other religions in many ways. For one thing. The founder himself was a psychopath, a rapist, a child abuser, an obsessive liar, deceiver, manipulator. He used  his position as a &#8220;Prophet&#8221; to satisfy his  selfish desires. For example when he wanted to have sex with Zaynab (his daughter in law) he instantly received a revelation from Allah, that it was lawful for him to do so. This psychopath wrote the whole Koran. Koran has very few &#8220;good verses&#8221; and the so called &#8220;good verses&#8221;, or &#8220;humane&#8221;, or &#8220;tolerant&#8221; verses are always taken out of context.  For example the famous verse that the Muhammadans are always bragging about which says that &#8220;that killing one person is like killing whole humanity&#8221; (which incidentally is borrowed from Talmud)is followed by next verse which says that those who oppose Muhammad, or Islam (cause disturbance in the land) must be crucified, their hands and feet cut off on the opposite side, etc. So even the &#8220;good&#8221; verses are a lie and manipulation tauted specifically for to deceive the naive Western audiences. This is their public face. The real message in Koran is one and simple: &#8220;The whole world has to be conquered for Allah. Any and all means are good if they bring Islam closer to this goal.&#8221; Specifically jihad, terrorism, lying and deception are noble methods for spreading the domain of Allah.<br />
So those who claim that Islam is OK, and it is like other religions, and that the problem is caused by a minority of nuts, are perpetuating a politically correct lie. Unfortunately our president belong to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray -- I hate to say it, but I do not get your point, unless you mean all Muslims are nut cases.  That has been argued.  But I have read the Koran, and I believe Mohammed was a decent guy.  But all religions tend to get f***d up by their followers.  The Wahabists must be crushed.  The Ayatollahs in Iran must be crushed.  That is what I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8212; I hate to say it, but I do not get your point, unless you mean all Muslims are nut cases.  That has been argued.  But I have read the Koran, and I believe Mohammed was a decent guy.  But all religions tend to get f***d up by their followers.  The Wahabists must be crushed.  The Ayatollahs in Iran must be crushed.  That is what I say.</p>
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