Comments on: How Palestinian is this land? http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113896 Ray Bright Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:03:08 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-113896 Just saw this reply after 1/2 year. So you may never see mine. Still, I would like to say, that God works with your and mine hands. IF we just sit on our asses and wait for God, we will get holocausted, on the other hand if we make but tactical and strategic alliances we win. Islam, Koran and Muhammad are disgusting and if we dare to attack our enemy, we find that we are loved and supported by huge number of people. So how do you know that this is not God? Do you think Jews should have just sat on their asses in 1967? Or perhaps taking a preemptive action and defeating our enemy was exactly the act of God? Just saw this reply after 1/2 year. So you may never see mine.
Still, I would like to say, that God works with your and mine hands. IF we just sit on our asses and wait for God, we will get holocausted, on the other hand if we make but tactical and strategic alliances we win.

Islam, Koran and Muhammad are disgusting and if we dare to attack our enemy, we find that we are loved and supported by huge number of people. So how do you know that this is not God?

Do you think Jews should have just sat on their asses in 1967? Or perhaps taking a preemptive action and defeating our enemy was exactly the act of God?

]]> By: Eli http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112436 Eli Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:55:47 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112436 No, not a Christian myself, has ve shalom. I never said that Christians are "the light", as most of them don't even know that Jesus was a Jew himself, and also was black NOT. Still, when I have to choose between a X-tian and a muslim, I choose an X-tian. Islam will not stay, as you are saying, but rather will try to move in all directions to try and dominate the world. Eventually, we either get rid of it, or it will get rid of us. There is no "peaceful" version of Islam, and as such it must be destroyed just like the Nazi Germany was destroyed. If you remember, some very unnatural friendship was formed and became known as "the Allies" in order to defeat the german pest. It is only by His will that the British+the US fought alongside the Russian communists, despite absolutely irreconcilable differences. Thus, we must have faith in G-d that we will have some unexpected friends eventually in our fight. Having said that, I agree that we definitely must fix our issues first, so that at least we could have a clean backyard, before we can make some progress when dealing with the outside world. No, not a Christian myself, has ve shalom. I never said that Christians are “the light”, as most of them don’t even know that Jesus was a Jew himself, and also was black NOT. Still, when I have to choose between a X-tian and a muslim, I choose an X-tian.
Islam will not stay, as you are saying, but rather will try to move in all directions to try and dominate the world. Eventually, we either get rid of it, or it will get rid of us. There is no “peaceful” version of Islam, and as such it must be destroyed just like the Nazi Germany was destroyed. If you remember, some very unnatural friendship was formed and became known as “the Allies” in order to defeat the german pest.
It is only by His will that the British+the US fought alongside the Russian communists, despite absolutely irreconcilable differences. Thus, we must have faith in G-d that we will have some unexpected friends eventually in our fight.
Having said that, I agree that we definitely must fix our issues first, so that at least we could have a clean backyard, before we can make some progress when dealing with the outside world.

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112435 chaim Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:21:34 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112435 No Ray, you are wrong. WE don't have many allies, don't you learn a bit from history? We just have G-d as strength. Of course you don't believe in Him, but I think He does not care what you think about.. No Ray, you are wrong. WE don’t have many allies, don’t you learn a bit from history? We just have G-d as strength. Of course you don’t believe in Him, but I think He does not care what you think about..

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112434 chaim Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:18:04 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112434 Wow, Eli, you really have yourself together... So where you get Christianity is better than Islam? Of course Christians never had to come to Jerusalem to invade here, and I'm happy Muslims butchered them and sent the pigs back. Remember what those "crusaders" made to Jews in Jerusalem just for fun? Islam never made those things to us. And begin to learn, you will never get rid of Islam. They are here to stay, nothing new. If you are Jew, better be worried to fix our issues, not to blame others. If you are a christian, wake up then and learn a little. Christianity is by no way the "light" or the "civilization" of this world. Wow, Eli, you really have yourself together…
So where you get Christianity is better than Islam?
Of course Christians never had to come to Jerusalem to invade here, and I’m happy Muslims butchered them and sent the pigs back. Remember what those “crusaders” made to Jews in Jerusalem just for fun?
Islam never made those things to us. And begin to learn, you will never get rid of Islam. They are here to stay, nothing new. If you are Jew, better be worried to fix our issues, not to blame others.
If you are a christian, wake up then and learn a little.
Christianity is by no way the “light” or the “civilization” of this world.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112433 Ray Bright Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:40:54 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112433 Eli, Israel is not alone in this fight. Check out "Faithfreedom.org website. It is full of great articles. This is a website for ex-Muslims, by ex-Muslims. Many Muslims are waking up and throwing away the death-cult they were born into. Thousands of Muslims have dropped Islam after having read Faithfreedom.org for a length of time. Practically all the authors on faithfreedom are strongly pro-Israeli. Then there is the SIAD and SIOD, strongly opposing Islamic imperialism and supporting Israel. Additionally there are Hindus, who have indeed been holocausted by the Muhammedans. An estimate of 80 Million Hindus have been butchered by the Muslims, on same occasion as many as 100,000 on a single day. We do have allies in all corners of the world. There are also people in Iran, who know that Islam was never their real religion, they know that Islam is an Arab imposition, part of Arab imperialism. They hate the oppression of their ancient and cultured country by the primitive Arabs and their 7th century Bedouin "religion". We do have many allies, they are not a majority (yet) but if we work together they may one day become majority. They, just like Jews, are constrained by the Political Correctness, and by the fear of Muslims rioting. However the Correctness is wearing thin, and the fear is being replaced by anger. Time to take action, unite and fight back. Time to liberate Muslims from their backwardness. * In one of his recent posts Obadiah suggested that perhaps bombing (or even nuking) Mecca (and Medina) are a good for humanity as they may the Islamic cult into a more spiritual dimension, just as it happened with Jews after the destruction of the Temple. Eli,
Israel is not alone in this fight.
Check out “Faithfreedom.org website. It is full of great articles.
This is a website for ex-Muslims, by ex-Muslims. Many Muslims are waking up and throwing away the death-cult they were born into.
Thousands of Muslims have dropped Islam after having read Faithfreedom.org for a length of time.
Practically all the authors on faithfreedom are strongly pro-Israeli.

Then there is the SIAD and SIOD, strongly opposing Islamic imperialism and supporting Israel.
Additionally there are Hindus, who have indeed been holocausted by the Muhammedans. An estimate of 80 Million Hindus have been butchered by the Muslims, on same occasion as many as 100,000 on a single day.
We do have allies in all corners of the world.
There are also people in Iran, who know that Islam was never their real religion, they know that Islam is an Arab imposition, part of Arab imperialism. They hate the oppression of their ancient and cultured country by the primitive Arabs and their 7th century Bedouin “religion”.

We do have many allies, they are not a majority (yet) but if we work together they may one day become majority. They, just like Jews, are constrained by the Political Correctness, and by the fear of Muslims rioting. However the Correctness is wearing thin, and the fear is being replaced by anger.
Time to take action, unite and fight back.
Time to liberate Muslims from their backwardness.
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In one of his recent posts Obadiah suggested that perhaps bombing (or even nuking) Mecca (and Medina) are a good for humanity as they may the Islamic cult into a more spiritual dimension, just as it happened with Jews after the destruction of the Temple.

]]> By: Eli http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112432 Eli Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:19:18 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112432 Exactly right! Apologizing is only interpreted as a sign of weakness. How many times have I heard politically correct Christians apologizing for Crusades, but never heard an apology from a muslim regarding the atrocities committed in the name of Islam. The world must be rid from the CURSE of islam (satanism) once and for-all. Unfortunately, Israel is alone in this fight. Exactly right! Apologizing is only interpreted as a sign of weakness. How many times have I heard politically correct Christians apologizing for Crusades, but never heard an apology from a muslim regarding the atrocities committed in the name of Islam. The world must be rid from the CURSE of islam (satanism) once and for-all. Unfortunately, Israel is alone in this fight.

]]> By: John Angles http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112422 John Angles Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:30:11 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112422 Why do we need to apologize and create excuses for keeping and holding our homeland? Biblically we were granted the authority to take the land by force of arms and did. Subsequently after various partial evictions, we were evicted from the land. In 1948, we returned to the land and have held it by force of arms. Our title is as good as that of every existing people to the land that they hold. All current countries were taken from the aboriginal peoples or subsequent holders by force of arms and are currently held by force of arms. recognizing this we should evict all Palestinians from all Israeli lands, including Gaza and the West Bank. The world will scream, wring their hand and finally move on. The land is ours,we should accept this without apology and get rid of those who "will be a thorn in our side". jpa Why do we need to apologize and create excuses for keeping and holding our homeland?

Biblically we were granted the authority to take the land by force of arms and did. Subsequently after various partial evictions, we were evicted from the land.

In 1948, we returned to the land and have held it by force of arms. Our title is as good as that of every existing people to the land that they hold. All current countries were taken from the aboriginal peoples or subsequent holders by force of arms and are currently held by force of arms.

recognizing this we should evict all Palestinians from all Israeli lands, including Gaza and the West Bank. The world will scream, wring their hand and finally move on.

The land is ours,we should accept this without apology and get rid of those who “will be a thorn in our side”.

jpa

]]> By: jack Shattuck http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112417 jack Shattuck Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:56:47 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112417 Why oh why must we wait unavailing for the Israeli government to issue a White Paper tracing the legalities of Jewish rights to Eretz Yisrael back to World War I and the realities of Jewish settlement in the land, such as Obadiah has presented here? C'mon, Bibi, get your upteen ministers busy preparing the record. We do not need endless World Court and UNHRC opinions which do not state the truth because the State of Israel does not deem it necessary to confront the world with the truth that everyone, including Obama, has either forgotten or lacks awareness. Why oh why must we wait unavailing for the Israeli government to issue a White Paper tracing the legalities of Jewish rights to Eretz Yisrael back to World War I and the realities of Jewish settlement in the land, such as Obadiah has presented here? C’mon, Bibi, get your upteen ministers busy preparing the record. We do not need endless World Court and UNHRC opinions which do not state the truth because the State of Israel does not deem it necessary to confront the world with the truth that everyone, including Obama, has either forgotten or lacks awareness.

]]> By: tarawa1943 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112414 tarawa1943 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:38:01 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112414 obadiah, super article, love you my man! obadiah, super article, love you my man!

]]> By: chaim http://samsonblinded.org/blog/how-palestinian-is-this-land.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112413 chaim Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:10:24 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=1069#comment-112413 And some more details: When arabs saw the jews came to buy lands, the dunam in Israel was as much as twice more expensive than in Manhattan. Besides, what land properties can them claim when most of land was owned "by the sword" by local bedouins? Or maybe people ignores taxes for the Sultan where collected by soldiers forcibly? Most of the land was owned by effendis(gentlemen) in Damascus, and rented to felahs(peasants) to ignominious prices. And some more details:
When arabs saw the jews came to buy lands, the dunam in Israel was as much as twice more expensive than in Manhattan. Besides, what land properties can them claim when most of land was owned “by the sword” by local bedouins? Or maybe people ignores taxes for the Sultan where collected by soldiers forcibly?
Most of the land was owned by effendis(gentlemen) in Damascus, and rented to felahs(peasants) to ignominious prices.

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