Comments on: Honesty cannot be reformed http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112909 Danny the Admin Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:34:22 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-112909 A midrash tells us that when Jews welcomed the Torah, God hanged Mount Sinai above us and threatened to drop it unless we accept the Torah. The lesson is, we have no free will in accepting the yoke. A midrash tells us that when Jews welcomed the Torah, God hanged Mount Sinai above us and threatened to drop it unless we accept the Torah. The lesson is, we have no free will in accepting the yoke.

]]> By: Joachanin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-112908 Joachanin Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:32 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-112908 Being "chosen" is a misnomer. We are the ones who chose to carry G-d's laws. It had been offered to others before us, and we were the ones who chose it. And it is good for us to thank the Lord for allowing us that choice and privilege. The Reform Rabbis I have spoken with all encourage people to follow all of the Torah laws that are possible (consider how many apply to the priesthood and are not possible, for example), with full knowledge of what those laws mean and understanding of what it means not to follow any one law. The onus is then on the individual to learn, to understand, and to follow G-d's torah. And that is a difficult burden - the one we chose and that we should all follow! Being “chosen” is a misnomer. We are the ones who chose to carry G-d’s laws. It had been offered to others before us, and we were the ones who chose it. And it is good for us to thank the Lord for allowing us that choice and privilege. The Reform Rabbis I have spoken with all encourage people to follow all of the Torah laws that are possible (consider how many apply to the priesthood and are not possible, for example), with full knowledge of what those laws mean and understanding of what it means not to follow any one law. The onus is then on the individual to learn, to understand, and to follow G-d’s torah. And that is a difficult burden – the one we chose and that we should all follow!

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94835 Danny the Admin Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:04:10 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94835 Yup, but we thank God for being chosen. Normally, you don't thank someone for giving you an inferior product. Yup, but we thank God for being chosen. Normally, you don’t thank someone for giving you an inferior product.

]]> By: rachamim ben ami http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94797 rachamim ben ami Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:40:37 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94797 What does it mean to be Jewsih? Remember this, before we were a faith we were a PEople. Modern Science has blessed us with what we have already known: The Jewish People share a much closer genetic link that groups that stand outside their circle. whether you are a Bukhari, Yemeni, or Galitzner you share a close genetic bond that reall does make you a brother (or sister) to your fellow Jew. Y Chromosomal Modfdality among Kahanim has proven this as has other aspects of genome research far too numerous to touch on here. What else makes one Jewish? Rabbis of course merely argue that having a Jewish mother and fufillment of Mitzvot is the magic formula but I say all 3 are important. One CAN convert but even there assuming the convert marries Jewish the 2 or 3rd generation of his offspring will have been integrated back into the genteic line so that the genetic connection remains unbroken. We are a People, a People with a unique faith and a unique outlook and since all 3 aspects are just as important, all 3 need to be preserved as equally strong. What does it mean to be Jewsih? Remember this, before we were a faith we were a PEople. Modern Science has blessed us with what we have already known: The Jewish People share a much closer genetic link that groups that stand outside their circle.

whether you are a Bukhari, Yemeni, or Galitzner you share a close genetic bond that reall does make you a brother (or sister) to your fellow Jew.

Y Chromosomal Modfdality among Kahanim has proven this as has other aspects of genome research far too numerous to touch on here.

What else makes one Jewish? Rabbis of course merely argue that having a Jewish mother and fufillment of Mitzvot is the magic formula but I say all 3 are important.

One CAN convert but even there assuming the convert marries Jewish the 2 or 3rd generation of his offspring will have been integrated back into the genteic line so that the genetic connection remains unbroken.

We are a People, a People with a unique faith and a unique outlook and since all 3 aspects are just as important, all 3 need to be preserved as equally strong.

]]> By: rachamim ben ami http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94795 rachamim ben ami Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:34:12 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94795 Ahhh, so right on the so called Reform/Liberal Movements but you forget that even among Caredim there have been innovative thinkers who have adapted the faith and practices of our people to changing times. What of Ba'al Shem Tov? Did he not reform the pietists who believed the only way to commune is with a nose in a book? I also disagree that our faith sees itself as better. Being "Chosen" is an onus, at least as much as it is a blessing. Ben Noach need only follow 7 Mitzvot while we the Chosen must strive and so our best to fufill 613. As usual, insightful thoughts though. Ahhh, so right on the so called Reform/Liberal Movements but you forget that even among Caredim there have been innovative thinkers who have adapted the faith and practices of our people to changing times.

What of Ba’al Shem Tov? Did he not reform the pietists who believed the only way to commune is with a nose in a book?

I also disagree that our faith sees itself as better. Being “Chosen” is an onus, at least as much as it is a blessing. Ben Noach need only follow 7 Mitzvot while we the Chosen must strive and so our best to fufill 613.

As usual, insightful thoughts though.

]]> By: jos boersema, www.jhwh.be http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94658 jos boersema, www.jhwh.be Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:49:22 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94658 Maybe (some?) people in (some?) reform groeps don't belief in HaShem, because HaShem has rejected their (re)form of Judaism, and not put love for the Creator and His Torah in their hearts and minds, but cut them off. Tough I'm not Jewish, I think the entire reform movement (changed service on Shabat) should be rejected completely. Only reading of the Law and what is all completely accepted by all, so that the service stimulates unity. Free preaching (like christn) does not belong there because it is "up for debate". Good luck to you Jews, seek out your Holy Torah, there is nothing like it in the world. Maybe (some?) people in (some?) reform groeps don’t belief in HaShem, because HaShem has rejected their (re)form of Judaism, and not put love for the Creator and His Torah in their hearts and minds, but cut them off. Tough I’m not Jewish, I think the entire reform movement (changed service on Shabat) should be rejected completely. Only reading of the Law and what is all completely accepted by all, so that the service stimulates unity. Free preaching (like christn) does not belong there because it is “up for debate”. Good luck to you Jews, seek out your Holy Torah, there is nothing like it in the world.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94652 Danny the Admin Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:19:36 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94652 Yup, but what does it mean, "to be Jewish"? How does this impart on your behavior? Say, a Zulu announce, "Since Monday, I'm Jewish!" What must he do in order for everyone to believe that he is Jewish? Yup, but what does it mean, “to be Jewish”? How does this impart on your behavior?
Say, a Zulu announce, “Since Monday, I’m Jewish!” What must he do in order for everyone to believe that he is Jewish?

]]> By: Shiloh http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94629 Shiloh Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:28:43 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94629 Ray, did you write this while listening to John Lennon's 'imagine'. :-) Ray, did you write this while listening to John Lennon’s ‘imagine’. :-)

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94627 Ray Bright Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:25:13 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94627 All this talk about what is going to happen in the "future". While what really matters is what is NOW. Now the world is antisemitic. Now Jews are still in pain from Holocaust. Now huge majority of Arabs and Muslims hate us. Now, in contrast to the past, we Jews have a state, where we are welcome home where we can be free to be either religious or non-religious. The land where we are not a second class citizens. The only country where we can be sure to not be persecuted just because we are Jews (or Hebrews). Also now, Jews collectively, are perhaps the most creative people who ever walked on this planet. This is enough reason to give full support for the Jewish state of Israel. = As for the future I am looking forward to the day when Judaism will disappear together with all other belief systems. Or reform to such degree that it will no longer be organized religion. I am also looking forward to the day when countries will stop existing, and people can live in communities according to their love of the place and their shared vision. (This will incidentally allow Nationalist Jews, and Religious Jews to have a community much like a country. But really these future hopes and dreams are just that, dreams. Now is what matters, and now we are facing existential threats from our sworn enemies. These threats must not be glossed over. They must be answered. All this talk about what is going to happen in the “future”.
While what really matters is what is NOW.
Now the world is antisemitic.
Now Jews are still in pain from Holocaust.
Now huge majority of Arabs and Muslims hate us.
Now, in contrast to the past, we Jews have a state, where we are welcome home where we can be free to be either religious or non-religious. The land where we are not a second class citizens. The only country where we can be sure to not be persecuted just because we are Jews (or Hebrews).

Also now, Jews collectively, are perhaps the most creative people who ever walked on this planet.

This is enough reason to give full support for the Jewish state of Israel.
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As for the future I am looking forward to the day when Judaism will disappear together with all other belief systems. Or reform to such degree that it will no longer be organized religion.
I am also looking forward to the day when countries will stop existing, and people can live in communities according to their love of the place and their shared vision. (This will incidentally allow Nationalist Jews, and Religious Jews to have a community much like a country.
But really these future hopes and dreams are just that, dreams. Now is what matters, and now we are facing existential threats from our sworn enemies. These threats must not be glossed over. They must be answered.

]]> By: Squall http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-94617 Squall Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:12:05 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/honesty-cannot-be-reformed.htm#comment-94617 Analytics >> I always say that religious jews get along better with secular nationalist jews than with anti-sionist haredim. So of course you are welcome ! . In Israeli politics, the only viable coalition would be Likud + NU-NRP... without haredim and leftist parties. Analytics >> I always say that religious jews get along better with secular nationalist jews than with anti-sionist haredim. So of course you are welcome !
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In Israeli politics, the only viable coalition would be Likud + NU-NRP… without haredim and leftist parties.

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