Comments on: Goldstone report: the rebuttal http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:09:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rob http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-2#comment-115567 Rob Fri, 14 May 2010 11:39:19 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-115567 Here are links to a lengthy article on the pro-Palestinian movement published in Front Page magazine this week: http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/10/a-movement-of-hate-pt-i/ http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/11/a-movement-of-hate-pt-ii/ http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/12/a-movement-of-hate-pt-iii/ http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/13/a-movement-of-hate-pt-iv/ In response to the comments in posts 7 and 50 where the posters assert the report is fine because it also criticises Hamas: “The Goldstone Commission, bearing more than a passing resemblance to the Star Chamber, was essentially a politically motivated attack on Israel laying the ground for international prosecution. The criticism of Hamas was little more than an afterthought briefly alluded to in the Report as a ploy to appear balanced.”/. Such apologists are also ignoring the origin of the report. When the UN established the terms for the report it mentioned Israel’s acts in Gaza exclusively. Here are links to a lengthy article on the pro-Palestinian movement published in Front Page magazine this week:
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/10/a-movement-of-hate-pt-i/
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/11/a-movement-of-hate-pt-ii/
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/12/a-movement-of-hate-pt-iii/
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/13/a-movement-of-hate-pt-iv/

In response to the comments in posts 7 and 50 where the posters assert the report is fine because it also criticises Hamas: “The Goldstone Commission, bearing more than a passing resemblance to the Star Chamber, was essentially a politically motivated attack on Israel laying the ground for international prosecution. The criticism of Hamas was little more than an afterthought briefly alluded to in the Report as a ploy to appear balanced.”/. Such apologists are also ignoring the origin of the report. When the UN established the terms for the report it mentioned Israel’s acts in Gaza exclusively.

]]> By: The Rights Times http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-114571 The Rights Times Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:35:07 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-114571 The whole point of the Goldstone Report was to address humanitarian concerns as well as in violations of international, humanitarian, and human rights law. In fact, Ms. Navi Pillay, the High Commissioner for Human Rights, distinctly says at the Special Session on the Human Rights Situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, that “BOTH parties have committed and continue to commit violation of human rights law”. The two key issues were and are the situation in East Jerusalem and the continuing blockade of Gaza. You are focusing too much of who the finger is being pointed at and who is being blamed and who should be blamed. In fact, the finger, or should I say fingers, are being pointed at BOTH sides. Moreover, BOTH sides are to blame for STILL having not pursued independent investigations. See here for my review of the Special Session: http://therightstimes.blogspot.com/2010/02/review-of-2009-human-rights-council.html I was also at the presentation of the Goldstone Report and would be happy provide word for word responses from both sides as well as from Member States. The whole point of the Goldstone Report was to address humanitarian concerns as well as in violations of international, humanitarian, and human rights law. In fact, Ms. Navi Pillay, the High Commissioner for Human Rights, distinctly says at the Special Session on the Human Rights Situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, that “BOTH parties have committed and continue to commit violation of human rights law”. The two key issues were and are the situation in East Jerusalem and the continuing blockade of Gaza. You are focusing too much of who the finger is being pointed at and who is being blamed and who should be blamed. In fact, the finger, or should I say fingers, are being pointed at BOTH sides. Moreover, BOTH sides are to blame for STILL having not pursued independent investigations.

See here for my review of the Special Session: http://therightstimes.blogspot.com/2010/02/review-of-2009-human-rights-council.html

I was also at the presentation of the Goldstone Report and would be happy provide word for word responses from both sides as well as from Member States.

]]> By: Rob http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-114029 Rob Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:39:34 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-114029 Thanks Jay and HMP49 for the kind words. I hope to visit Israel sometime although the warmer climes do not agree with me for some reason. lol At the moment I’m “trying” to write a very very harsh but fair critique of the Western pro-Palestinian movement in my spare time over Christmas. Hopefully a paper like the Jerusalem Post will consider it although to be honest it may be a tiny bit too controversial for the mainstream media. Robert H… Thanks Jay and HMP49 for the kind words. I hope to visit Israel sometime although the warmer climes do not agree with me for some reason. lol

At the moment I’m “trying” to write a very very harsh but fair critique of the Western pro-Palestinian movement in my spare time over Christmas. Hopefully a paper like the Jerusalem Post will consider it although to be honest it may be a tiny bit too controversial for the mainstream media.

Robert H…

]]> By: Jay http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113979 Jay Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:57:13 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113979 seems to be a hell of a great deal of truth here so what can you point to that is a lie in this well documented proof of the UN's biased Jew hatred! I guess you bought the lies about Israel or you would be more concerned with Tibet, Sudan, Iran, and Syria. seems to be a hell of a great deal of truth here so what can you point to that is a lie in this well documented proof of the UN’s biased Jew hatred! I guess you bought the lies about Israel or you would be more concerned with Tibet, Sudan, Iran, and Syria.

]]> By: Jay http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113978 Jay Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:52:39 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113978 Anwar, I love your thought process except it has one major flaw, the UN is a useless and lame body. It is biased against Israel and cannot be seen as a objective observer. It is being dominated by major human rights violators/dictators who abuse and oppress their own populations. Remember Israel has made peace with any country that had genuine aspirations for peace (Jordan and Egypt). It is the only country in the history of the world who having won territory in a war gave 2/3rds of its territory for peace (between Jordan and Egypt). The lies and disinformation about Israel being apartheid and imperial are nonsense. One must simply visit Saudi Arabia and Israel for perspective. Best wishes from Israel Anwar, I love your thought process except it has one major flaw, the UN is a useless and lame body. It is biased against Israel and cannot be seen as a objective observer. It is being dominated by major human rights violators/dictators who abuse and oppress their own populations. Remember Israel has made peace with any country that had genuine aspirations for peace (Jordan and Egypt). It is the only country in the history of the world who having won territory in a war gave 2/3rds of its territory for peace (between Jordan and Egypt). The lies and disinformation about Israel being apartheid and imperial are nonsense. One must simply visit Saudi Arabia and Israel for perspective.

Best wishes from Israel

]]> By: Jay http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113977 Jay Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:44:03 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113977 "Sounds to me like a successful recipe for World peace, love, joy, happiness and fulfilment." Yeah if these evil forces had their way it would be without Israel or Israelis! That is their recipe. They are just too stupid to realize that the Jews are just the canary in the mine shaft and once they go Christians will be next. If you think that Islamofascism stops there you would be WRONG. Then it would be Shi'ite vs Sunni vs Wahabbi, etc. They are the religion of war. Love you Rob! Your insight is dead on! Hope you visit Israel soon. “Sounds to me like a successful recipe for World peace, love, joy, happiness and fulfilment.” Yeah if these evil forces had their way it would be without Israel or Israelis! That is their recipe. They are just too stupid to realize that the Jews are just the canary in the mine shaft and once they go Christians will be next. If you think that Islamofascism stops there you would be WRONG. Then it would be Shi’ite vs Sunni vs Wahabbi, etc. They are the religion of war.

Love you Rob! Your insight is dead on! Hope you visit Israel soon.

]]> By: Jay http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113976 Jay Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:38:18 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113976 It was as forensic as the cigarette industry saying its products are not a health risk. The whole group of Goldstone had, have, and probably will have reputations of slander, misrepresentation, and ill-will towards Israel. That is not fact finding but gang manipulation and predetermined findings! So Israelis testified? It just proves we have a free society of citizens and those who are anti-Israel have the right to voice their insidious voices as well. Interesting they picked only those Israelis of the extreme/radical leftists. It was as forensic as the cigarette industry saying its products are not a health risk. The whole group of Goldstone had, have, and probably will have reputations of slander, misrepresentation, and ill-will towards Israel. That is not fact finding but gang manipulation and predetermined findings! So Israelis testified? It just proves we have a free society of citizens and those who are anti-Israel have the right to voice their insidious voices as well. Interesting they picked only those Israelis of the extreme/radical leftists.

]]> By: Jay http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113975 Jay Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:32:51 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113975 What stupidity N.J. Come to Sderot and see the 1000s of shells that have fallen. They are on display for fools like you. Israel is busy being creative in its medical and technological spheres yet its enemies have only one raison de etre, Israel's destruction. You side with them, you side with evil! What stupidity N.J. Come to Sderot and see the 1000s of shells that have fallen. They are on display for fools like you. Israel is busy being creative in its medical and technological spheres yet its enemies have only one raison de etre, Israel’s destruction. You side with them, you side with evil!

]]> By: Jay http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113974 Jay Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:19:56 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113974 You obviously did not even bother reading the many facts in this blog that counter your brainwashed notion that Israel is some aggressive, imperialist, and malicious country. In fact, what country when at war with another entity actually allows humantarian supplies, water, electric and fuel to be given to that entity. We did! Your criticism is so off base. I guess you have forgotten what countries at war do to quell their own civilian casualties. You add more salt to the wound by calling the IDF capable of war crimes when there is explicit proof that not only did the IDF take pictures of the targeted places but the thousands of mobile phone records of calls placed to known civilians to get out of harms way. It is the most moral army in the world. I didn't say it alone so did the retired joint chiefs of staff in the US. I think they know a little more about warfare than you. In addition, you do not know what was or wasn't done by Israel against civilians a. because you weren't there b. because I was, c. because the overwhelming uncontentious facts speak for themselves, and d. because if there was this major death and destruction in Gaza there would have been at least 100s of 1000s dead but there were not. The bulk of the deaths were terrorists! If you are so thrilled with Islamofascist terrorists living next door to you stop being a hypocrite and get them all visas to live in Victoria. What would Canada do if a group in Montana decided to send missiles, homicide bombers, and wild gunmen into British Columbia? HMMM Lastly, we don't need the respect of the whole world. We need to respect ourselves and that means protecting ourselves from "sworn" enemies who have refused on 6 separate opportunities since 1947 to make peace and have a 2 state solution. Instead we will defend our democracy where we continue to contribute to our global society way beyond the parity of our 7 million citizens to the rest of the world's population. In technology, medicine, and business, we are bringing a light unto nations of revolutionary products and services to make life richer, healthier, and simpler from North America to Africa. Thankfully G-d has allowed us to thrive despite being surrounded by enemies. We will continue to do so no matter how many people like you side with the slander and not the reality, the myth and not the fact, the delusion and not the concrete. Good luck seeing black as white. You obviously did not even bother reading the many facts in this blog that counter your brainwashed notion that Israel is some aggressive, imperialist, and malicious country. In fact, what country when at war with another entity actually allows humantarian supplies, water, electric and fuel to be given to that entity. We did! Your criticism is so off base. I guess you have forgotten what countries at war do to quell their own civilian casualties. You add more salt to the wound by calling the IDF capable of war crimes when there is explicit proof that not only did the IDF take pictures of the targeted places but the thousands of mobile phone records of calls placed to known civilians to get out of harms way. It is the most moral army in the world. I didn’t say it alone so did the retired joint chiefs of staff in the US. I think they know a little more about warfare than you.

In addition, you do not know what was or wasn’t done by Israel against civilians a. because you weren’t there b. because I was, c. because the overwhelming uncontentious facts speak for themselves, and d. because if there was this major death and destruction in Gaza there would have been at least 100s of 1000s dead but there were not. The bulk of the deaths were terrorists! If you are so thrilled with Islamofascist terrorists living next door to you stop being a hypocrite and get them all visas to live in Victoria. What would Canada do if a group in Montana decided to send missiles, homicide bombers, and wild gunmen into British Columbia? HMMM

Lastly, we don’t need the respect of the whole world. We need to respect ourselves and that means protecting ourselves from “sworn” enemies who have refused on 6 separate opportunities since 1947 to make peace and have a 2 state solution. Instead we will defend our democracy where we continue to contribute to our global society way beyond the parity of our 7 million citizens to the rest of the world’s population. In technology, medicine, and business, we are bringing a light unto nations of revolutionary products and services to make life richer, healthier, and simpler from North America to Africa.

Thankfully G-d has allowed us to thrive despite being surrounded by enemies. We will continue to do so no matter how many people like you side with the slander and not the reality, the myth and not the fact, the delusion and not the concrete.

Good luck seeing black as white.

]]> By: hmp49 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/goldstone-report-the-rebuttal.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113968 hmp49 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:02:15 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3101#comment-113968 "SOME Palestinians acted happy on 9-11..The media just filmed a small group who were celebrating" 1) Exactly how do you know that? How do you know every single Palestinian wasn't celebrating? Yet another unfounded claim you imagine as "facts" 2) You have no idea what antipathy there is to the US in the Arab world. You DO know that 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, don't you? And your Palestinian pals consider you an infidel dog? 3) You are as ignorant regarding who are your friends and who are your enemies as you are of the history of the region. “SOME Palestinians acted happy on 9-11..The media just filmed a small group who were celebrating”

1) Exactly how do you know that? How do you know every single Palestinian wasn’t celebrating? Yet another unfounded claim you imagine as “facts”
2) You have no idea what antipathy there is to the US in the Arab world. You DO know that 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, don’t you? And your Palestinian pals consider you an infidel dog?
3) You are as ignorant regarding who are your friends and who are your enemies as you are of the history of the region.

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