Comments on: Do the best thing: do nothing http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: bar http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85269 bar Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:13:08 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85269 Dhimmi it is, I stand corrected. - I have seen in print how Moslems laud that (Dhimmi) institution, so I don't see how Muslims can object to being subject to Dhimmi. Muslims expect others to happily accept Dhimmi status, so why should they not welcome it for themselves? - And of course it is fair that the Dhimmi Moslems pay the Jizma poll tax, because it would be the Israelis who would have to supply the soldiers to defend them from Israel's many external enemies.:) Dhimmi it is, I stand corrected.
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I have seen in print how Moslems laud that (Dhimmi) institution, so I don’t see how Muslims can object to being subject to Dhimmi. Muslims expect others to happily accept Dhimmi status, so why should they not welcome it for themselves?
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And of course it is fair that the Dhimmi Moslems pay the Jizma poll tax, because it would be the Israelis who would have to supply the soldiers to defend them from Israel’s many external enemies.:)

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85236 Ray Bright Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:20:12 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85236 Israel is doing so much for the sake of the world opinion, and the results are miserable. Most of the world is anti-Israeli. Perhaps if Israel would just do whatever it must do, it would not be any worse than it is. Or perhaps it even would be better? It is really hard to know. Perhaps Arabs would accept us more if we were more like them? Israel is doing so much for the sake of the world opinion, and the results are miserable. Most of the world is anti-Israeli.
Perhaps if Israel would just do whatever it must do, it would not be any worse than it is. Or perhaps it even would be better? It is really hard to know.
Perhaps Arabs would accept us more if we were more like them?

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85217 Alain Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:08:09 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85217 Israel needs to annex all so-called territories, grand legal resisdent status (not citizenship) to Arabs willing to live in peace and obey the laws and deport all the others. The waiting for world approval is stupid, for it will never come as long as any non Muslim state exist in the ME. Israel needs to annex all so-called territories, grand legal resisdent status (not citizenship) to Arabs willing to live in peace and obey the laws and deport all the others.

The waiting for world approval is stupid, for it will never come as long as any non Muslim state exist in the ME.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85214 Danny the Admin Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:56:23 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85214 Dhimmi status is much worse than non-citizens. Dhimmi are discriminated in many personal rights. Dhimmi status is much worse than non-citizens. Dhimmi are discriminated in many personal rights.

]]> By: LJ http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85211 LJ Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:30:43 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85211 Bar, I think you are talking about dhimmi status. This is like treating non-muslims as second class non-citizens. Umma means nation and usually means the community of believers, aka muslims. Bar,

I think you are talking about dhimmi status. This is like treating non-muslims as second class non-citizens. Umma means nation and usually means the community of believers, aka muslims.

]]> By: bar http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85210 bar Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:26:27 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85210 Eric: Don't the Moslems provide something called "umma", which is some sort of protective agreement? So they would understand living under someone else's "umma". - So why can't Israel declare non-jews to be "umma" in Israel? That way you don't have to let them vote, Israel can remain a sectarian state forever, and you don't have to lose their labour. - You don't throw them out of Israel, not because of worries about "world" opinion, but because it is wrong. You don't respond to violence with greater violence, but "an eye for an eye" (or a suitable, agreed cash equivalent.) Eric: Don’t the Moslems provide something called “umma”, which is some sort of protective agreement? So they would understand living under someone else’s “umma”.
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So why can’t Israel declare non-jews to be “umma” in Israel? That way you don’t have to let them vote, Israel can remain a sectarian state forever, and you don’t have to lose their labour.
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You don’t throw them out of Israel, not because of worries about “world” opinion, but because it is wrong. You don’t respond to violence with greater violence, but “an eye for an eye” (or a suitable, agreed cash equivalent.)

]]> By: Erick S http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85205 Erick S Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:06:02 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85205 No, Ray. I wasn't addressing you :) Your post appeared in the middle later on. It was a response to Bar. No, Ray. I wasn’t addressing you :)
Your post appeared in the middle later on.

It was a response to Bar.

]]> By: Ray Bright http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85200 Ray Bright Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:03:14 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85200 Eric, Was your post addressed to me? I am surprised by the tone of your message. Indeed I don't know the answer, and I am surprised that you assume that I am advising anything. I am simply inquiring. Solutions are more likely to be found when people chose to inquire together rather than attack each other. We have enough enemies as it is, we don't need to attack each others:) Eric,
Was your post addressed to me?
I am surprised by the tone of your message. Indeed I don’t know the answer, and I am surprised that you assume that I am advising anything. I am simply inquiring. Solutions are more likely to be found when people chose to inquire together rather than attack each other. We have enough enemies as it is, we don’t need to attack each others:)

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85157 Danny the Admin Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:30:07 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85157 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/new-fundamentalism.htm http://samsonblinded.org/blog/new-fundamentalism.htm

]]> By: Erick S http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm/comment-page-1#comment-85154 Erick S Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:26:02 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/do-the-best-do-nothing.htm#comment-85154 So you're advising to destroy their homes, buying them out, killing them, surrendering, or just reading about things in wiktionary until the world problems will be solved? Don't answer that. You <b>don't</b> know the answer. You'll just say something irrelevant trying to show off how smart you are instead. So you’re advising to destroy their homes, buying them out, killing them, surrendering, or just reading about things in wiktionary until the world problems will be solved?
Don’t answer that. You don’t know the answer. You’ll just say something irrelevant trying to show off how smart you are instead.

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