Comments on: Conversion for Jews http://samsonblinded.org/blog/conversion-for-jews.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chaya K. http://samsonblinded.org/blog/conversion-for-jews.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113777 Chaya K. Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:14:49 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3151#comment-113777 Hello, I'd like to remind you that the majority in Israel nowadays is of "mixed" descent. The last people to have made aliyah recently were refugees from Yemen. Perhaps you relate to the 70ies and 80ies and early 90ies. No one is afraid of a Sefardic overmajority and the Religious in our days will not gain one, most likely. ??? Hello,

I’d like to remind you that the majority in Israel nowadays is of “mixed” descent. The last people to have made aliyah recently were refugees from Yemen.
Perhaps you relate to the 70ies and 80ies and early 90ies. No one is afraid of a Sefardic overmajority and the Religious in our days will not gain one, most likely.
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]]> By: Chaya K. http://samsonblinded.org/blog/conversion-for-jews.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113776 Chaya K. Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:11:33 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3151#comment-113776 I agree with you completely, except for one point - in how far were the Jewish people experts on "self-destruction"? I agree with you completely, except for one point – in how far were the Jewish people experts on “self-destruction”?

]]> By: AbuShy http://samsonblinded.org/blog/conversion-for-jews.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113773 AbuShy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:54:08 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3151#comment-113773 Man, Moshe! Shma Yisrael! (Mark 12:28-34) Personally, as one who could be considered a spiritual threat (missionary) by Orthodox Jews, a pain to be removed by secular, American, usually Reform Jews in the political sense, and even as someone who must first be re-circumcised in the doctrinal eyes of Messianic Jews, your words have a common sense about them that I hope will spread like some kind of spiritual H1N1 in Israel. "...for a day will come when the watchmen on Ephraim's hill cry out, 'Come, let us make aliyah, let us go up to Zion, to Yahveh Elohaynu. Though I broke loose I have repented: now that I am tamed I beat my breast; in shame and remorse I reproach myself for the sins of my youth.'" Jeremiah 31 I agree. Let us not commit suicide anymore. "A partial blindness has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles ('and his descendants shall be a whole nation in themselves'[Genesis 48:20]) has come in. And so all Israel shall be saved." Romans 11 When you consider that the prophets like Zechariah said that when this last wave of aliyah comes in that there would not be room enough for them and that Lebanon and Jordan and Syria to the Euphrates River will not be room enough. 800,000 desperate strangers from Russia will pale in comparison...so yes, let's change the rules for aliyah and admission for the House of Joseph. Man, Moshe! Shma Yisrael! (Mark 12:28-34)

Personally, as one who could be considered a spiritual threat (missionary) by Orthodox Jews, a pain to be removed by secular, American, usually Reform Jews in the political sense, and even as someone who must first be re-circumcised in the doctrinal eyes of Messianic Jews, your words have a common sense about them that I hope will spread like some kind of spiritual H1N1 in Israel.

“…for a day will come when the watchmen on Ephraim’s hill cry out, ‘Come, let us make aliyah, let us go up to Zion, to Yahveh Elohaynu. Though I broke loose I have repented: now that I am tamed I beat my breast; in shame and remorse I reproach myself for the sins of my youth.’”

Jeremiah 31

I agree. Let us not commit suicide anymore. “A partial blindness has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles (‘and his descendants shall be a whole nation in themselves’[Genesis 48:20]) has come in. And so all Israel shall be saved.” Romans 11

When you consider that the prophets like Zechariah said that when this last wave of aliyah comes in that there would not be room enough for them and that Lebanon and Jordan and Syria to the Euphrates River will not be room enough.

800,000 desperate strangers from Russia will pale in comparison…so yes, let’s change the rules for aliyah and admission for the House of Joseph.

]]> By: Moshe Fried http://samsonblinded.org/blog/conversion-for-jews.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113761 Moshe Fried Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:29:45 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3151#comment-113761 Why all the worry about the race or purity of those who identify themselves as Jews? King David descended from a Moabite woman and from the union of Yehudah and Tamar, when Yehuda had sex with Tamar, whom he thought was a prostitute, at the time of sexual union. Yet, the Messiah is supposed to come from David's lineage. It would be better to welcome and assimilate these people as Jews than to turn them away, and make enemies of them. The Jewish people, as a group, have been experts at self destruction. This urge to throw away 800,000 thousand people, instead of embracing them with friendship and love, is an example of national suicide. Why all the worry about the race or purity of those who identify themselves as Jews? King David descended from a Moabite woman and from the union of Yehudah and Tamar, when Yehuda had sex with Tamar, whom he thought was a prostitute, at the time of sexual union. Yet, the Messiah is supposed to come from David’s lineage.
It would be better to welcome and assimilate these people as Jews than to turn them away, and make enemies of them.
The Jewish people, as a group, have been experts at self destruction. This urge to throw away 800,000 thousand people, instead of embracing them with friendship and love, is an example of national suicide.

]]> By: Saar http://samsonblinded.org/blog/conversion-for-jews.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113740 Saar Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:30:24 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/?p=3151#comment-113740 Lets find out why we had to let this Russian invasion occur. Don't tell me because the Iron Curtain fell. Many Sephardic Jews in Israel resent the fact that many of these European non-Jews were let in, and given privileges they did not deserve. Obadiah's idea makes sense, but lets stop the madness and change the aliyah laws. Let Halachic Jews in of any derivation, not Europeans because you are afraid of a Sephardic and/or Religious super majority. Lets find out why we had to let this Russian invasion occur. Don’t tell me because the Iron Curtain fell. Many Sephardic Jews in Israel resent the fact that many of these European non-Jews were let in, and given privileges they did not deserve. Obadiah’s idea makes sense, but lets stop the madness and change the aliyah laws. Let Halachic Jews in of any derivation, not Europeans because you are afraid of a Sephardic and/or Religious super majority.

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