Comments on: Battle of thugs http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict Sat, 19 May 2012 18:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8708 Danny the Admin Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:54:52 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8708 But perhaps Israel had already failed? At least, as a democratic ethnic-blind state. But perhaps Israel had already failed? At least, as a democratic ethnic-blind state.

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8694 Alain Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:39:55 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8694 Considering that G-d gave the whole of Israel to the Jewish people, it should not be necessary to create a separate state. No one Jew or group of Jews is entitled to give up any of this land to the Arabs or any other outsider. At present we have Israel which claims to be a Jewish state, and to a certain and very small extend this is true. For the most part however it is Jewish in name only and certainly not in practice. Because of this weakness we even see the rest of the world contesting our right to our historical capital, to say nothing of the never ending double standards used in every conflict and war. As to a separate state of Judea, I prefer that Israel become a Jewish state which includes Judea. Should that fail, then by all means I say yes to a separate state of Judea. Considering that G-d gave the whole of Israel to the Jewish people, it should not be necessary to create a separate state. No one Jew or group of Jews is entitled to give up any of this land to the Arabs or any other outsider.

At present we have Israel which claims to be a Jewish state, and to a certain and very small extend this is true. For the most part however it is Jewish in name only and certainly not in practice. Because of this weakness we even see the rest of the world contesting our right to our historical capital, to say nothing of the never ending double standards used in every conflict and war.

As to a separate state of Judea, I prefer that Israel become a Jewish state which includes Judea. Should that fail, then by all means I say yes to a separate state of Judea.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8670 Danny the Admin Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:32:31 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8670 Such as a separate state of Judea? Such as a separate state of Judea?

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8651 Alain Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:53:40 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8651 I do not disagree with Obadiah on this point. However I still believe that a true representative democracy with the right to re-call would be an improvement over the present system. For me the ultimate solution would of course be a Torah based system of government. I do not disagree with Obadiah on this point. However I still believe that a true representative democracy with the right to re-call would be an improvement over the present system. For me the ultimate solution would of course be a Torah based system of government.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8531 Danny the Admin Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:03:48 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8531 Obadiah argues that any government would be corrupt, and any Israeli government would be responsive to Jewish leftist-Arab majority. We have two solutions: non-democratic influence on the policy or exodus to the separate state, Judea. Obadiah argues that any government would be corrupt, and any Israeli government would be responsive to Jewish leftist-Arab majority. We have two solutions: non-democratic influence on the policy or exodus to the separate state, Judea.

]]> By: Alain http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8510 Alain Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:18:29 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8510 It seems to me that the form of government in Israel is the problem whereby politicians have no accountability to the people. Thus a complete reform of the system is required. People being people there will probably always be those who abuse their office, but at least then the voter could turf them out, especially if the system offered some form of recall. It seems to me that the form of government in Israel is the problem whereby politicians have no accountability to the people. Thus a complete reform of the system is required. People being people there will probably always be those who abuse their office, but at least then the voter could turf them out, especially if the system offered some form of recall.

]]> By: Danny the Admin http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8428 Danny the Admin Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:29:37 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8428 Thank you for reading so carefully, really ) Those are the different types of control. Obadiah specifically wrote in the latest article that it is mid-level police that prosecute the top-level crime. Police fights corruption with reasonable efficiency. Other Israelis do not exercise reasonable control over other criminal activities of the ruling establishment. Thank you for reading so carefully, really )

Those are the different types of control. Obadiah specifically wrote in the latest article that it is mid-level police that prosecute the top-level crime. Police fights corruption with reasonable efficiency. Other Israelis do not exercise reasonable control over other criminal activities of the ruling establishment.

]]> By: headjanitor http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8414 headjanitor Mon, 19 Feb 2007 06:01:14 +0000 http://samsonblinded.org/blog/battle-of-thugs.htm#comment-8414 In "Battle of Thugs" you wrote: <i>"Israel has more corruption scandals per capita than other countries <b>because of the thorough prosecution</b>, not excessive corruption"</i> (emphasis added). The implication is that Israelis exercise reasonable control over the government. Earlier, in "Another Hanukkah?", you wrote: <i>"<b>Unwilling to fulfill the civil duty of controlling the government</b>, Israelis </i>[...]" (emphasis added). Which one is it? In “Battle of Thugs” you wrote: “Israel has more corruption scandals per capita than other countries because of the thorough prosecution, not excessive corruption” (emphasis added). The implication is that Israelis exercise reasonable control over the government.

Earlier, in “Another Hanukkah?”, you wrote: “Unwilling to fulfill the civil duty of controlling the government, Israelis [...]” (emphasis added).

Which one is it?

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